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Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44
Reply #30 - May 9th, 2023 at 9:06am
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all my 44's (except 414) have a 5/16" rear sight dovetail, 7/16" front.
I haven't seen that sight before, FWIW.
Wondering if it's in a 5/16" dovetail.

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Reply #31 - May 9th, 2023 at 9:26am
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Rebel wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 9:06am:
all my 44's (except 414) have a 5/16" rear sight dovetail, 7/16" front.
I haven't seen that sight before, FWIW.
Wondering if it's in a 5/16" dovetail.

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The best I can measure without removing the sights, the front dovetail is .485", the rear .495".
  
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Reply #32 - May 9th, 2023 at 9:32am
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Not real common to see, but was a sight offered in the catalog,. What’s probably not common is seeing them out in decent shape.
  
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Reply #33 - May 9th, 2023 at 9:55am
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Very interesting. This rifle seems to be kind of special  Smiley

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Reply #34 - May 9th, 2023 at 10:35am
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That might be the “E” package, but cropped off the part that I think says “the folding leaf can be substituted”. Would have to look again at the full page. Sorry about that.

When. $10 rifle has $2 worth of upgrades, with out going to the higher model, it’s at least different.
  
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Reply #35 - May 9th, 2023 at 12:06pm
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$2.00 was a lot of money back then! 

USCRA112 noted in a offline discussion that the rifling style looks different than normal Stevens rifling of the period.  I don't know that normal looks like, but this is a near excellent condition bore.
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Reply #36 - May 9th, 2023 at 12:31pm
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I wonder why the original owner didn't just order a Model 45, which came with target sights.  If he preferred the rifle/crescent buttplate, that shouldn't have cost extra on the Model 45 because, if I remember correctly, the small Swiss and the crescent buttplates interchange.

Also, if the rifling really is different from standard, could the barrel be a special-ordered Ross-rifled one?

In any case, as I noted in my previous post, Steve is fortunate that his first Stevens was factory-customized in uncommon ways.

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Reply #37 - May 9th, 2023 at 1:26pm
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ndnchf wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 12:06pm:
$2.00 was a lot of money back then! 

USCRA112 noted in a offline discussion that the rifling style looks different than normal Stevens rifling of the period.  I don't know that normal looks like, but this is an excellent condition bore.

Post that photo of it.  Maybe someone will recognize it.  The fact that it slugs .253 is also interesting.
  
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Reply #38 - May 9th, 2023 at 1:39pm
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Rifling photos.
  
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Reply #39 - May 9th, 2023 at 1:58pm
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MrTipUp wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
I wonder why the original owner didn't just order a Model 45, which came with target sights.  If he preferred the rifle/crescent buttplate, that shouldn't have cost extra on the Model 45 because, if I remember correctly, the small Swiss and the crescent buttplates interchange.

Also, if the rifling really is different from standard, could the barrel be a special-ordered Ross-rifled one?

In any case, as I noted in my previous post, Steve is fortunate that his first Stevens was factory-customized in uncommon ways.

Bill Lawrence


You would have to sit down and really look at the prices. It would take a model 47 to get the loop lever, then probably pay extra for a rifle stock. 

One of the notable Stevens upgrades was, I think, a $2 to NOT cut the rear sight dove tail.

Makes it all the more fun.
  
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Reply #40 - May 9th, 2023 at 5:28pm
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Here’s a couple pictures of my .25-21 44 1/2’s bore, and pictures of a Stevens folding rear sight, 5/16” dovetail.
  
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Reply #41 - May 9th, 2023 at 5:32pm
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That looks like the same rifling. Might be the same folding sight too. Thanks.
  
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Reply #42 - May 9th, 2023 at 5:50pm
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I believe that your sight is a Lyman #6, my leaf sight is Stevens version with only 1 leaf.
  
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Reply #43 - May 9th, 2023 at 6:15pm
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I just got home with MY 44/45 .25-25 acquisition, which is considerably older, (1896/97 I think.  The rifling in it looks to have  more lands/grooves, and the ratio of land width to groove width is closer to 1:1.  Did Pope have influence on Stevens rifling beyond the "Pope system" barrels?   

More later.  I missed my afternoon nap.
  
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Reply #44 - May 9th, 2023 at 6:19pm
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Sure shot wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 5:50pm:
I believe that your sight is a Lyman #6, my leaf sight is Stevens version with only 1 leaf.


By the catalogs I have, that's definitely a Lyman #6.
  
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