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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2849 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #15 - May 7^th, 2023 at 10:23pm	Print Post
	Nice find. Exterior is not the greatest but the nice bore, good lock up and unusual options make up for it. I have Stevens in .25-25, .25-21, and .25.20SS. All interesting chamberings and fun to shoot. Have fun with it.


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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #16 - May 8^th, 2023 at 3:29am	Print Post
	Thanks. I'm really more of a shooter than a collector, so the bore condition means a lot more to me than the exterior. Now the hunt for .25-25 brass begins....


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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #17 - May 8^th, 2023 at 6:36am	Print Post
	From what I've been reading, it sounds like this may be a post WW1 rifle. It has the 6 O'clock extractor and APR.17.94 patent date. Does that sound right? I have loaded my one and only .25-25 case with 23.2gr of Old Eynsford 3F, a Winchester 88.5gr bullet and CCI SP primer. The weather looks good Wednesday. I plan to stop at the gun club on the way home from work and try it out


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #18 - May 8^th, 2023 at 6:59am	Print Post
	Actually, Steve, I'd best it's a pre-WWI rifle. But forum member uscra112, who has been collecting Model 44 information for several years now, is the person to ask. Bill Lawrence


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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #19 - May 8^th, 2023 at 8:36am	Print Post
	To my surprise, this rifle slugs to .253" groove diameter
	« Last Edit: May 8^th, 2023 at 8:43am by ndnchf »

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #20 - May 8^th, 2023 at 9:55am	Print Post
	With that serial number 22162, it would fall somewhere in the early 00's I would say. Stevens stopped selling the 44 action for any centerfire cartridges except .25-20 and .32-20 in 1903, and yet it has the central extractor and the 2-piece "bolt" pivots for breechblock and lever, which appeared about 1900. (The highest s/n that I have logged to date on any of the "large centerfires" is a 25-25 is 33875.) Coincidentally, I myself am awaiting delivery of a Model 45 in .25-25 that I won last week in a Gunbroker auction, and I'm in the same fix. I have ONE .25-25 case in stock.

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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #21 - May 8^th, 2023 at 10:16am	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 9:55am: With that serial number 22162, it would fall somewhere in the early 00's I would say. Stevens stopped selling the 44 action for any centerfire cartridges except .25-20 and .32-20 in 1903, and yet it has the central extractor and the 2-piece "bolt" pivots for breechblock and lever, which appeared about 1900. (The highest s/n that I have logged to date on any of the "large centerfires" is a 25-25 is 33875.) Coincidentally, I myself am awaiting delivery of a Model 45 in .25-25 that I won last week in a Gunbroker auction, and I'm in the same fix. I have ONE .25-25 case in stock. Early 00s, thanks so much for correcting my guess. Obviously I have a lot to learn about these rifles!


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #22 - May 8^th, 2023 at 10:23am	Print Post
	Sent you a P/M Something I read recently suggests that the best loads for the .25-25 back in the day were duplex - 4-5 grains of "nitro" powder topped up with 2F black.
	« Last Edit: May 8^th, 2023 at 10:42am by uscra112 »
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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #23 - May 8^th, 2023 at 10:34am	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 10:23am: Sent you a P/M Something I read recently suggests that the best loads for the .26-25 back in the day were duplex - 4-5 grains of "nitro" powder topped up with 2F black. That was my next question - thanks Phil.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #24 - May 8^th, 2023 at 10:43am	Print Post
	Of course, if we breech seat our bullets, one case is all we will ever need. One nice thing about the 44 family is that you can breech seat using nothing more than a dummy case. Just closing the action does the work for you.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #25 - May 8^th, 2023 at 4:31pm	Print Post
	But then, heh-heh, you need a minimum of two cases - one to be plugged and one to be repeatedly loaded and shot. Bill Lawrence


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 650 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #26 - May 8^th, 2023 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	MrTipUp wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 4:31pm: But then, heh-heh, you need a minimum of two cases... I think you could get away with one case. Any halfway decent machinist could turn a plug case out of bar stock.
	« Last Edit: May 8^th, 2023 at 8:46pm by Smoke »

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 838 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #27 - May 8^th, 2023 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Turned .25-25 cases are available from Rocky Mountain Cartridge, although current price is $109 for 20.


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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #28 - May 8^th, 2023 at 8:43pm	Print Post
	Yes I saw them on RMC's inventory page.


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ndnchf Oldtimer Offline Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Gun show find the next day - Stevens model 44 Reply #29 - May 9^th, 2023 at 8:50am	Print Post
	The rear barrel sight is a folding express type. It has 3 positions. The folded flat position is great for use with the tang sight. Is this a common Stevens barrel sight?


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