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JeffG Participating Member Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2018	tapered octagon barrel source? Aug 27^th, 2021 at 10:37am	Print Post
	I'm very green in the world of single shot rifles, so I haven't been keeping up on sources for things like octagon barrels. Are tapered octagon blanks being made by anyone? I'm looking for sources of tapered octagon blanks for a 22CF project (219 zipper, prefer fast twist; 8,9,10). But I suppose straight octagon that could be turned to half-round could be plan B Thanks for sharing Your experienced knowledge, Jeff


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 661 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #1 - Aug 27^th, 2021 at 11:05am	Print Post
	I would call Douglas or PacNor.


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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1061 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #2 - Aug 27^th, 2021 at 11:08am	Print Post
	try green mountain art


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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 946 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #3 - Aug 27^th, 2021 at 11:14am	Print Post
	I also believe CPA will taper a barrel to your specs. Tom


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #4 - Aug 27^th, 2021 at 11:15am	Print Post
	Gail at CPA is a good source and Her pricing has better than most. I have purchased several blanks from her and She will do any profile that you would like. I also highly recommend that you also get it polished unless you like doing it yourself. Her profiled and polished blanks are real Jewels and they are actually ready to be blued. One just has to keep them protected through the various machining processes. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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JeffG Participating Member Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2018	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #5 - Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:40pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the fast replies!! Sounds like CPA is the right choice for me! I appreciate the help.


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Nimrod Junior Member Offline O.S.O.K. Posts: 62 Location: Eastern New Mexico Joined: Aug 8^th, 2013	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #6 - Aug 27^th, 2021 at 6:11pm	Print Post
	JeffG wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:40pm: Thanks for the fast replies!! Sounds like CPA is the right choice for me! I appreciate the help. Before you send your money, check out BRC. Call Clay at 575-535-2923. Check out (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #7 - Aug 28^th, 2021 at 12:56am	Print Post
	I'll second BRC barrels. Lee Gibbs pres.ASSRA


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #8 - Aug 28^th, 2021 at 1:58am	Print Post
	Some octagon Green Mt. Barrels are profiled, for example, for a number three Winchester barrel, alleviating having to fit an existing forearm to the barrel. They, and others as mentioned, could possibly do the same for other makers contours. I just ordered and received a number three Winchester contour barrel from Green Mt. in 45-70, and the forearm fits like a glove.

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JeffG Participating Member Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2018	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #9 - Aug 30^th, 2021 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	Yes, more good advice, Thank You! I had come across BRC's website on a search, but had not contacted them directly. I was misjudging their low prices as old, not updated recently. They certainly have the qualifications, (and recommendations now) of experts! I don't need to match any historic profile or existing forearm inlet. This is "frame-up" custom build, and I'm the wood guy. I was hoping to find someone's "standard taper octagon", that will lean this rifle more toward sporter weight.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11331 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #10 - Aug 31^st, 2021 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	Krieger.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #11 - Sep 1^st, 2021 at 11:22am	Print Post
	Bulseyetom wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 11:14am: I also believe CPA will taper a barrel to your specs. Tom Yes. But, don't be in a hurry. She carries or can order Bartlein, Shilen & Douglas and will do your barrel if you are not in a hurry.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2203 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #12 - Sep 1^st, 2021 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	Had BRC contour a new barrel to specs shown in a drawing. Everything fit just fine. Price more than basic but not unreasonable. Chuck


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #13 - Sep 1^st, 2021 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	Clay, at BRC, contoured two barrels to match the one that was originally on my rifle. Standard cost, at that time, was $100 per barrel for the contouring. I don't know if he does octagons.


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2203 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #14 - Sep 1^st, 2021 at 10:43pm	Print Post
	The one they did for me was half round octagon. Chuck


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shermo Participating Member Offline Posts: 35 Location: ticonderoga n y Joined: Jul 16^th, 2017	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #15 - Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 8:27am	Print Post
	He made me a nice octagon barrel for a No3 ballard


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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1644 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #16 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 10:34am	Print Post
	Other than a few Green Mountain octagon barrels I usually do my own. That way I can match it to the wood if need be. Only problem is that my machine only has 29" of travel.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #17 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 11:36am	Print Post
	The last three half octagon to round profiled and polished Douglas Premium blanks that I purchased to also fit the existing wood. Where all under 350 dollars each delivered to me. I just could not justify the time and effort being spent in doing the same myself when I could be working on getting those rifles up and running competitively within a couple of days each or at times even less. Not including any rust blueing and none being wanted at the time including my own as the barrels were actually that nice. And they could then be done during the off season if one chose to do so during that time. Below is a picture of my own and chose not to have it blued. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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JeffG Participating Member Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2018	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #18 - Nov 17^th, 2021 at 9:41am	Print Post
	well, I'm moving forward on this project, with a tapered octagon barrel from BRC. Clay has been very helpful! Thanks for guiding me to them! Barrel tenon is 1-5/8" long~ half threaded, half smooth x .75" major thread diameter/ .71" minor-smooth diameter. Any concerns about chambering a 224 Valkyrie (55,000 psi) inside that tenon, leaving only .14" barrel steel around the chamber? I should probably move the action pictures from the other thread section, if i knew how..


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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 3914 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #19 - Nov 17^th, 2021 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Another vote for Green Mtn if you want a tapered barrel that will duplicate a specific style. What receiver are you using? I liked that my lightweight tapered barrel for my 25-20 came with a cylindrical section, part of which I retained when threading and chambering to yield a Ballard style “tulip” on my little smooth side low wall. It looked great! Froggie


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #20 - Nov 17^th, 2021 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	Nice choice in regards to your BRC barrel selection. Ken Lewis's prior testing results have been pretty outstanding in regards to their potential for accuracy. This he has shown here numerous times and it appeared to also have been easy for him to also achieve.

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BillOregon Full Member Offline Posts: 189 Location: Sweetwater, Texas Joined: Jul 28^th, 2006	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #21 - Dec 1^st, 2021 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	Hmmm. I wonder if they ever do .44 barrels for .44-77 et al.


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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1644 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: tapered octagon barrel source? Reply #22 - Dec 1^st, 2021 at 6:13pm	Print Post
	BillOregon wrote on Dec 1^st, 2021 at 2:57pm: Hmmm. I wonder if they ever do .44 barrels for .44-77 et al. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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