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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 3957 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #90 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	I have an original Stevens No. 203 Rocky Mountain front blade sight (from another rifle). It presently has a replica Lyman No. 8 Sporting Windage sight with a Beech style flipping blade or post.
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #91 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 7:27pm	Print Post
	Neat. Didn't even know that existed. I'm way behind the curve learning about sights. Phil

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 3957 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #92 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 8:24pm	Print Post
	From Nick Stroebel: Old Gunsights and Rifle Scopes: Lyman Sights Stevens sights
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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #93 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 8:50pm	Print Post
	If you know, who is the source of the reproduction Lyman No. 8 sights? Thanks! Bill Lawrence


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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 3957 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #94 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 8:53pm	Print Post
	No I do not now who replicated the No. 8 sight. I assume it is a replica because it is in new condition; but possibly it is an original that has never been touched or used. Of course the original rear sight shows wear from moving the sights up and down. The Sears 1908 catalogue indicated you could purchase a Stevens 44 with Lyman sights.
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #95 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	My reproduction of the 1907 Stevens catalog offers Lyman sights as well. Even looks like most of the cuts in the page you posted actually originated there. Or from a common source, anyway. Only a very few of the 44s I've logged have Lymans. Which probably proves exactly nothing, except to explain why I've had little cause to learn anything about them.

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chowboy Newbie Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2018	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #96 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 10:46am	Print Post
	I'm new to the forum, and so far have learned there is no date of manufacture info on Stevens 44s. But I would request informed speculation from the members on the following... I picked up a slightly rough model 44 1/2 (so called -- I don't know enough to tell) in cal 32-40 (!). Shoots well. Half octagon heavy barrel, matching 4-digit serial numbers (38XX) on receiver and barrel. Has the old style J. Stevens stamp with Chicopee Mass and April '94 patent date on top of the barrel. I thought most of these had 5-digit s/n. Anybody got a thought? thanks.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #97 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 11:23am	Print Post
	[quote author=575E53565D4A4B3F0 link=1521427648/96#96 date=1521989209]I picked up a slightly rough model 44 1/2 (so called -- I don't know enough to tell) in cal 32-40 (!).[/quote] If the block drops straight down, it's a 44-1/2, if it swings in an arc from a pivot near the front of the action, it's a 44.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #98 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 11:26am	Print Post
	Schuetzendave wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 8:53pm: I assume it is a replica because it is in new condition... Very sound assumption. Could be one of those high-quality repros made several yrs ago in Ukraine by Parts Unknown.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #99 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 11:34am	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 9:38pm: Only a very few of the 44s I've logged have Lymans. Maybe because ordering the Lyman added an entire 50 CENTS above the cost of the Stevens #102 tang sight!


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #100 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Quote: I'm new to the forum, and so far have learned there is no date of manufacture info on Stevens 44s. But I would request informed speculation from the members on the following... I picked up a slightly rough model 44 1/2 (so called -- I don't know enough to tell) in cal 32-40 (!). Shoots well. Half octagon heavy barrel, matching 4-digit serial numbers (38XX) on receiver and barrel. Has the old style J. Stevens stamp with Chicopee Mass and April '94 patent date on top of the barrel. I thought most of these had 5-digit s/n. Anybody got a thought? thanks. Welcome, welcome. You are correctly informed that there are no factory records for Stevens. All destroyed. The 44 1/2 model did not retain the Model 44s s/n sequence. So there are many with 4 digit numbers, and ought to be more with three or even two, I suppose. (I've never been lucky enough to own or even see one such.) Manufacture started in 1903, and the last ones were made 1915/16 just before the company was hijacked by Westinghouse for war production. The Shuttleworths, of CPA Rifles, are about the most knowledgeable source on the subject. They make replicas, and also parts for the originals. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #101 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	Do the 44 1/2 rifles have an 1894 patent date?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #102 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Mar 25^th, 2018 at 2:53pm: Do the 44 1/2 rifles have an 1894 patent date? Not ones I've got, but that of course doesn't include them all.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #103 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	If he's got a 44 with that serial number, it's real early and I want to know all about it for the log.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens 44 Manufacturing Date? Reply #104 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	Schuetzendave wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 8:53pm: No I do not now who replicated the No. 8 sight. I assume it is a replica because it is in new condition; but possibly it is an original that has never been touched or used. Of course the original rear sight shows wear from moving the sights up and down. The Sears 1908 catalogue indicated you could purchase a Stevens 44 with Lyman sights. Didn't Sergio have copies of the #8 made when he was selling under Parts Unknown?

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