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Re: A cute little Ballard
Reply #30 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 6:06pm
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rkba2nd wrote on Mar 12th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
Schuetzenbob  Nifty Pope cuts also, original I presume?


Pope wasn't the only one using the scallop cuts for scope mounting. Schoyen & Peterson also used them. But for some reason Schoyen & Peterson only used them for their rear scope mounts, and had typical holes D&T for the front mounts. I have a couple Schoyen barreled Ballards with those cuts at the rear location. Always guessed the AW Peterson scopes and mounts maybe used them?
  

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Reply #31 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 6:55pm
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Very true, but I have never seen a Schoyen using a Winchester barrel so marked. not to say they don't exist, I just have not seen one.
  

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Reply #32 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 7:10pm
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rkba2nd wrote on Mar 12th, 2024 at 6:55pm:
Very true, but I have never seen a Schoyen using a Winchester barrel so marked. not to say they don't exist, I just have not seen one.


No, unlike Pope, Schoyen built all his barrels. Where Pope often purchased bored and un-rifled barrels from Winchester so he could final bore and rifle them.
  

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Reply #33 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 9:30pm
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Obviously why we have never seen one.  Although I hesitate to say never, when it comes to single shot rifles. It was a long time before I saw a deluxe engraved Pacific, I am now aware of three after a long time looking at and for Ballard rifles. Just one example.
  

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Reply #34 - Mar 28th, 2024 at 12:38pm
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Ok..... how do you use the rest? Looks like it is very close to the trigger. Perhaps the question is how do you press the trigger when it is blocked by the rest?
  

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Reply #35 - Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:09pm
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On my offhand rifles, I've been using a finger rest similar to that Ballard for years. With the set triggers set for a very light let-off, the rest allows shooter to get a good feel of the trigger without accidentally tripping it. A bit of a squeeze and the trigger breaks.
Precise position of the finger rest is critical though. It's not a one-size-fits-all solution.
Overall, it's improved my OH scores a bit.
  

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Reply #36 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 12:24pm
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On very light triggers, 2 oz or less, it is very difficult to come on to the trigger from the front, especially if you have or have had Carpel Tunnel. Many times, it will break, before you know your on it.

What I would do, is come in from the side of the trigger, with a little forward pressure, until I felt the trigger and then adjusted my feel of it until I knew when it would break. The finger rest allows you to do something similar to that.
  

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Reply #37 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 1:33pm
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Anybody doing the old trick of a small cork on the trigger with a needle sticking out, or simply a needle which pierces the trigger, for the ultimate in extremely light trigger control?
  
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Reply #38 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 1:41pm
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I am very much enjoying this Ballard. The finger rest works just as described above and I think is a help. I have been shooting ten rounds through it every day the weather has allowed over the last few weeks after screwing a round metal plate to a fence post so I can step out of my reloading room and shoot.

I purchased the rifle expressly to practice and improve my offhand shooting and wanted a gun as close to my centerfire Ballards as possible. Having an original Soule sight and being priced right was a bonus. The finger rest may prove to be a detriment to my shooting when I move to the other rifles that dont have it.

I have George at Treebone carving making me a forearm. When that is fitted it should feel exactly like my others. The barrel has never been drilled for a forearm.
  
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Reply #39 - Mar 30th, 2024 at 12:22am
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"The barrel has never been drilled for a forearm"

Sounds like some of my builds, hence the patented inner tube black rubber bands.    Grin

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Very nice Ballard by the way.  Wink  I see a finger rest or two developing.
  

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Reply #40 - Mar 30th, 2024 at 7:58am
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GT, I was afraid to say it, but I am considering after the forearm is fitted, Inletting the bottom of the barrel channel with a couple small round powerful magnets. If they’re strong enough they’d hold while shooting, yet I could keep the rifle just as it is and has been for what appears to be a long time. Not sure why it’s nagging at me not to alter it.
  
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Reply #41 - Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:10am
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See if Westerner still has one of his clamp-on palm rests available. the fitting would hold the forend and with the stem removed, would look just as if it were temporarily removed. Slick.
  
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Reply #42 - Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:25am
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rifleman wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 7:58am:
GT, I was afraid to say it, but I am considering after the forearm is fitted, Inletting the bottom of the barrel channel with a couple small round powerful magnets. If they’re strong enough they’d hold while shooting, yet I could keep the rifle just as it is and has been for what appears to be a long time. Not sure why it’s nagging at me not to alter it.


I like that idea. There's some amazingly strong small button magnets to be had. The only concern for me would be would they be strong enough to keep the fore arm from sliding back firmly against the face of the receiver in the course of handling/jostling/shooting - a distinct no-no in terms of maintaining consistent accuracy.
  
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Re: A cute little Ballard
Reply #43 - Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:07am
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I'd think that D&T for a single forearm screw would be far less altering to this Ballard than magnets inletted into it.
  

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Reply #44 - Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:59am
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Id Inlet and glue the magnets into the forearm, not the barrel Vall. It was just an idea I considered.
  
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