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Winchester 1885 Hi-Wall non-std adjustable trigger
Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:24am
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Again, ... seeking info and education. This much-worked-over high-wall trigger has a single, blued, slotted-head adjustment screw. It does not appear original. Is any information (or even speculation) available regarding who might have done such work? or when? Could this have been a mail-order item 100 years, or so ago? Thanks much, as ever. PS. Hope I got the attachments 'attached'
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Reply #1 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 12:24pm
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From the pictures it looks like a standard single set trigger with the adjustment screw replaced with a larger, longer one.
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 12:24pm
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Or could be an over-travel adjustment screw modification. Cock the hammer on an empty chamber and turn the screw in; if it fires it is a set screw and if it does not fire and trigger will no move any further it’s an over-travel screw. Good luck.
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 4:00pm
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Most excellent info. Thanks. The screw looked way longer than anything New Haven would have put on. I will do the tests -- but may have to wait until I get other work done (a project, ineed). Just what I needed to know. Cheers & holiday best to all.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 9:23pm
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best to pull the lower tang and show us some pictures on this ken
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:50am
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Since the screw is in the yrigger itself, i would say it us trigger travel stop screw
  
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Re: Winchester 1885 Hi-Wall non-std adjustable trigger
Reply #6 - Dec 21st, 2023 at 1:16pm
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I just happened to have a non-set trigger high wall with a trigger that has the standard set trigger screw hole.  I inserted a 1/2" long screw and turned it all the way in.  It made no difference in trigger travel or other functions
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:20pm
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Thanks again for the additional info. I will get to this homework assignment .... soon! Happy holidays to all.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:22am
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2nd the opinion that looks like the right location for a single set trigger screw with an extra extra long replacement screw

the spring looks high compared to factory original  and the flats on the trigger appear below the tang more than average to me

swapping tangs and parts was often done and no reason the gun can't still have the wonderful trigger feel 1885s are know for

pics of tang removed from gun and different angle would shed more light on the situation
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:58pm
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Maybe this will help.  Single set on a low wall.  This is from 10 years ago.   Pictures are horrible but clear enough to see the screw and internals.
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Reply #10 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 10:50am
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Another thanks, especially for the pictures, Rob. They are good enugh to show that mine is adjustable, but most likely not a set trigger as there is no screw on the front of the trigger. Happy Holidays to all.... Rob (too).
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 11:03am
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bob's pictures dont show the front of lower tang witch would show the catch ken
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 1:12pm
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Is this what you are looking for Ken?  Been too long for me to remember the details!
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Reply #13 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:01pm
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that shows the catch
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 3:48pm
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There is only 1 screw for the single-set trigger.  Here are the parts from the MVA site.
  

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Re: Winchester 1885 Hi-Wall non-std adjustable trigger
Reply #15 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:53pm
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It appears to be a single set trigger with a long adjustment screw. I’ve attached two photos showing both the single set and the double set triggers. Years ago when I bought the single set it didn’t have the set screw or the the elongated knockoff sear that it takes on the inside. I ordered the necessary parts from Wyoming Armory and it works great. Need to look at the schematic to see what it would need as I don’t recall exactly the necessary parts.
  

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Reply #16 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 11:10am
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Thanks yet again Bob, Ken, Jack.
These are really good phtotos (and the parts diagram, too -- and prettier than my rifle). And also, my photos could have been misleading because the other parts -- all there, and all working -- are disassembled & sitting in the customary Tupperware container. The deal is that I did not know what kind of trigger it was. I did try to make it "set' by pushing forward -- maybe too gently, and without turning the adjustment screw. All of this info will definitely sort things out once all the pieces are re-assembled. Thanks again & Happy 2024 to all.
  
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Re: Winchester 1885 Hi-Wall non-std adjustable trigger
Reply #17 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 12:05pm
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If you need to reinstall the trigger catch and trigger make a short pin (I use a nail) to hold the catch, spring and trigger together. The pin needs to not stick out on either side.  Then position the assembly in the lower tang and use the correct pin to push out the temporary one.   If you have 3  hands this may not be necessary. 

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Reply #18 - Dec 29th, 2023 at 11:21am
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Thanks. Sounds just like the slave-pin needed to reassemble the sear-disconnector setup on Colt Cold Cup 1911's. Meanwhile, .... still working on growing that 3rd arm .....
  
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Reply #19 - Dec 29th, 2023 at 12:10pm
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Good luck.  Three hands will make you a killer juggler.
  

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Re: Winchester 1885 Hi-Wall non-std adjustable trigger
Reply #20 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 3:08pm
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More High-Wall trigger-related questions: The attachments are photos of the Trigger Return Spring. I have looked at others in order to obtain a spare -- and have not seen any that have this lengthwise (? strain relief?) slit that appears to be original. Did it really leave the factory like that? And second, there's the Jan 29, 1901 Patent Date -- that I have not seen on others listed for sale, either. As ever, any info is greatly appreciated (and best New Year 2024 to all). Thanks.
  
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