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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11327 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Military Borchardt PG Sep 18^th, 2023 at 10:45pm	Print Post
	Saturday we went out and shot a really neat rifle. Has the Barnes windgauge barrel sight. Thought you all might like to see it.

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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Online ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1204 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #1 - Sep 18^th, 2023 at 11:45pm	Print Post
	Wow!!!!! Really cool rifle!

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3487 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #2 - Sep 19^th, 2023 at 1:15am	Print Post
	I'm liking that one myself. How'd it shoot for you guys?


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11327 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #3 - Sep 19^th, 2023 at 9:27am	Print Post
	The rifle was very accurate. Loads were mild smokeless with 350 grain bullets. It was Jims first outing with the rifle. He was very happy with it. Was the first time I had ever seen a military Borchardt with a pistol grip and the first time seeing a Barnes windgauge sight.

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Flatlander Oldtimer Offline Posts: 596 Location: Warm Arizona Joined: Apr 24^th, 2004	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #4 - Sep 19^th, 2023 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	Sweet! Flatlander

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2242 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #5 - Sep 19^th, 2023 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	I didn't even know there were pistol grip military Borchardts. I assumed they would all be straight grip. Were there many made like that? Chris.


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1559 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #6 - Sep 19^th, 2023 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	A way cool Borchardt. You're not giving us much history on it, Joe. I'd like to know what Tom Rowe, Dick Binger, and Roy Marcot know about it.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11327 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #7 - Sep 20^th, 2023 at 1:00am	Print Post
	Wished I knew more about it. In Frank Sellers book, he writes there were a few pistol grip military rifles made. I know Tom Rowe is on the forum, maybe he'll chime in. I had been looking forward to seeing the rifle for some time. Didn't know it was checkered. The rifle is in near mint condition. When Jim acquired it he fired an empty case with just a primer. He could not get the action open so a local gunsmith here in town found the problem. The firing pin had .090 protrusion. John made the adjustment on it and it functions perfectly now. John said it had an original firing pin in it, just to long. So we assume that is why it is in such remarkable condition. Assuming It never got used.
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15750 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #8 - Sep 20^th, 2023 at 10:55am	Print Post
	What a rare and stunning rifle Joe! I also wasn't aware of any pistol grip military Borchardt rifles, and that's got to be a very rare variation!

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moodyholler Oldtimer Online Posts: 673 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #9 - Sep 24^th, 2023 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	Jim Georgan had one with PG and checkered. Stevens Pope barrel in 30 krag. Stock looked like short range. I suffered over it for longest time. moodyholler


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #10 - Sep 24^th, 2023 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	Jim Georgan had one with PG and checkered. Stevens Pope barrel in 30 krag. Stock looked like short range. Since the .30-40 Krag cartridge let alone Stevens-Pope barrels originated long after the 1881 demise of the Sharps Rifle Manufacturing Co., Mr. Georgan's rifle had clearly been modified post-production. Thus was there a "factory letter" or other reliable evidence of it being a factory-original military Borchardt with a factory-original checkered PG buttstock? Bill Lawrence


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11327 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #11 - Sep 25^th, 2023 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	moodyholler wrote on Sep 24^th, 2023 at 4:16pm: Jim Georgan had one with PG and checkered. Stevens Pope barrel in 30 krag. Stock looked like short range. I suffered over it for longest time. moodyholler Sounds like it was a re-barreled short range model not a military model. Did it have the full length forestock?

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SchwartzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1011 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #12 - Sep 26^th, 2023 at 4:47am	Print Post
	I thought I had seen something about the 1878 Sharps in one of the three new(er) Sharps books from Marcot and Co and just checked but alas not. It would be neat if a book dedicated to the 1878 aand variations were written but I fear it would be mighty thin...

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2242 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #13 - Sep 26^th, 2023 at 8:52am	Print Post
	I believe the next volume will be about the 1878. I had hoped there would be coverage of it in the last one as it has a section on target rifles. Either way, if that rifle is original, it's a pretty rare configuration. Chris.


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jeronimo41 Newbie Offline Posts: 8 Joined: Sep 21^st, 2023	Re: Military Borchardt PG Reply #14 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:18am	Print Post
	I love my Borchardt musket! There's just something about it. I own many types of BPCR's but this ...yep.


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