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Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #30 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 10:45am
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uscra112 wrote on Oct 30th, 2022 at 12:26am:
The more you pay, the more it's worth!

Hope the buyer has $$ left over for brass.

Look closely at the base of the tang sight.  There seems to be a little lever (?) there that I haven't seen before.


I had a sight with the same lever.ill see if I still have it.
  
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Reply #31 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 10:47am
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It would make sense to me that if Stevens brought the .28-30 out in 1900 there'd be an immediate push to build rifles in the new caliber? Wouldn't make sense to bring it out if they weren't going to start building rifles with this cartridge chambered in them.
I understand the thinking that they would also have some work retrofitting barrels to existing actions also once people discovered the new offering, and wanted an extra barrel for their existing 44. Seems we'd see a few multiple barrel rifle sets also with one of the barrels being the .28-30, and all barrels numbered to the same receiver?
  

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Reply #32 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 10:50am
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uscra112 wrote on Oct 30th, 2022 at 12:26am:
The more you pay, the more it's worth!

Hope the buyer has $$ left over for brass.

Look closely at the base of the tang sight.  There seems to be a little lever (?) there that I haven't seen before.


here is another.
  
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Reply #33 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 3:06pm
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If you are referring to the lever at the pivot point, it is a locking lever to keep the staff in its correct vertical position. There were four versions of Lyman's tang sight. The #1, 1A and 2 and#2A. this is the #2A, which also has a threaded aperture.
  

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Reply #34 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 5:31pm
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Thanks, y'all.  The learning never stops here.
  

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Reply #35 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 5:37pm
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.28-30 barrels from multi-barrel sets may have been discarded as the cartridge lost favor.  The two that I have were bought via evilBay as singletons.  Both very cheap, too.  That was ~15 years ago, though.
  

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Reply #36 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 11:06am
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I contacted the seller about this when the rifle first came up for sale.  I just received this very strange reply from him, copied and pasted here:

Dear Sir,
as much as I agree with you, I am brought these from our appraiser who is the person that dictates what the firearm is that is brought in then brings it to me. I in turn only do the research and write about it photograph it and post it. That being said , I unfortunately have to keep my mouth shut when I come across discrepancies and go with it, as the last time I ( a woman ) pointed out that I believed he was wrong I got ripped up and down. So , you know and I know what it is and apparently so does every one else that has seen it. all I can do is leave it at that unfortunately. as he monitors the postings I make and if I post anything that contradicts what he has stated it will be a whole lot of ripping into me again. 

  

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Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #37 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 12:53pm
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Strange business protocol.

I could be interested in it as something to mess with but not at the price it's hovering at. Notice the list of bidders: a bunch of newbies who probably have auction fever for a gun that was cobbled together, refinished, and with a torched receiver. I see the scope and sights as representing around $800-1000 of its value.

The checkering may well be factory done. I have a 44 (.22RF) with identical wrist checkering, but the fore arm checkering is much different, around 20,000 lower serial number than this one. I would like to see a view of the bottom of the wrist as my gun's checkering wraps clean around with no breaks in the panel.
  
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Reply #38 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 2:12pm
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Mistaken listings are par for the course.  I see Favorites presented as Model 44s about 5 or 6 times a year.  These estate-breakers aren't as expert as we are, (they probably know antique furniture a lot better), and many if not most are giving the grunt-work of setting up the listings to underlings who know even less, like this poor woman.  Sometimes it has worked to my favor, when a piece was so mis-identified that most potential buyers never even looked twice at it. 

OTOH I'll have to admit that, when I first started collecting single-shot rifles, I paid way too much a time or two, out of naivety.

So it goes. 
  

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Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #39 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 3:24pm
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uscra112 wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Mistaken listings are par for the course.  I see Favorites presented as Model 44s about 5 or 6 times a year.  These estate-breakers aren't as expert as we are, (they probably know antique furniture a lot better), and many if not most are giving the grunt-work of setting up the listings to underlings who know even less, like this poor woman.  Sometimes it has worked to my favor, when a piece was so mis-identified that most potential buyers never even looked twice at it. 

OTOH I'll have to admit that, when I first started collecting single-shot rifles, I paid way too much a time or two, out of naivety.

So it goes. 

 
There’s at least 2 or 3 Favorites listed as model 44’s right now on Gunbroker.

I just hope the person that wins the .28-30 knows what they are getting, a model 44 and not a 44 1/2.
  
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Reply #40 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 3:49pm
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I also hope that, especially because otherwise the "winner" might try 44-1/2-safe loads in it.

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Reply #41 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 6:49pm
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The bidders are showing low feedback counts, implying that they may not know the difference.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #42 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 9:03am
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Sold for $2775, I guess Mr. Nash wanted it badly!
  
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Reply #43 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 9:14am
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And has the money.  Maybe an investor buying it as an inflation hedge?
  

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Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #44 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 10:17am
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Jimmy crickets I might have to have my friend put a couple of my pieced together 44's  on gunbroker....
  
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