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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1866 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Oct 26^th, 2022 at 11:09am	Print Post
	See the listing on GunBroker (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Unless I'm wrong (certainly wouldn't be the 1st time) the rifle is a Stevens 44. But it's in a caliber (28-30) I would expect to find in a 44 1/2. Comments? Wayne
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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1025 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #1 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 11:24am	Print Post
	It would be nice to see the serial numbers because it would help narrow down some production dates. The cartridge was introduced around 1900, the 44 1/2 1903. So in theory a small production window. No reason at all it can’t be original configuration. I looked at that and don’t remember if it showed the extractor, so it was either 6 o’clock or not shown. Would have remembered a 7 o’clock. Seemed like a decent enough example, probably a bit over thinking the price based on it not being a 44 1/2, but some ni s examples have gone really high there lately. Yes, that is a 44.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1866 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #2 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Dellet, a couple of the photos display the the serial number as 40343. Wayne

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 834 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #3 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	I sent a message to the seller yesterday informing them that the rifle is a model 44 and not a 44 1/2, no response. The auction started out at $1. It does have the lugged hammer.


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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1025 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #4 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	That’s what I get for going from memory. I could of sworn there was minimum bid that was high and why I lost interest. Still a nice example and the lugged hammer is a plus. Only thing that looks a little out of place is the hardening.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1866 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #5 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	At the current bid price it would seem to be a good deal considering the scope is worth at least $500. BTW, what is the purpose of the "lugged" hammer vs a standard hammer? Wayne

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 834 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #6 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	The lugged hammer provides extra support to the breech block upon firing. And I agree that the case hardening looks a little odd, torch hardening?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15738 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #7 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	The .28.30 marking looks odd to me. Correct font style, but looks almost like it was engraved, not stamped?

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 647 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #8 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	Strange too that the caliber is right under the address. I've owned a few Stevens and the caliber was always close to the receiver and the address further down the barrel towards the muzzle. or is that aspect just strange to me?


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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1155 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #9 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 2:20pm	Print Post
	Please correct me if I'm wrong but in the close-up photo of the caliber "engraving", it appears to me the barrel has been set-back from the position of the Stevens maker's stamp on top barrel flat. The forestock also appears to have been shorted same amount as barrel set-back. One question, does the stock checkering look like a Stevens factory job?

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 834 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #10 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:49pm: The .28.30 marking looks odd to me. Correct font style, but looks almost like it was engraved, not stamped? I took another closer look at the pictures. I think the barrel and the rest of the rifle has been refinished. I think you could be right about the engraving, or possibly after polishing the barrel for re-bluing, someone used an engraver to deepen the caliber marking. Still not a bad rifle if it sells for the right price.


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 834 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #11 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 2:32pm	Print Post
	RSW wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 2:20pm: Please correct me if I'm wrong but in the close-up photo of the caliber "engraving", it appears to me the barrel has been set-back from the position of the Stevens maker's stamp on top barrel flat. The forestock also appears to have been shorted same amount as barrel set-back. One question, does the stock checkering look like a Stevens factory job? You might be correct about the barrel being set back, in the description the seller states that the barrel is 24 1/2”, it should be at least 26” long. At first I suspected that they measured from the front of the receiver.


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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1060 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #12 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	Looks to me that the font on the barrel serial no. is different than that on the receiver. Regards, Joe


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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1025 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #13 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 3:12pm	Print Post
	If the scope mounts are correctly spaced, then the barrel wasn’t set back much, if it was at all. Certainly not 1 1/2”.


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1811 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens 44 being sold as Stevens 44 1/2 Reply #14 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	A Super Targetspot, depending on reticle focus, is 24 3/8 inches long, so it would appear to me that the barrel is very close to, or is 26 inches. Having the lugged hammer would indicate a 32-40 or 38-55, if not 28-30. It looks to me to be refinished and checkered at some time, but otherwise factory. I once owned a twin, sans the scope bases and checkering, and in much higher condition, but a very accurate and fun rifle to shoot. Outside condition would not detract from that. As others have said, it would be worthwhile depending on price, and honest appraisal of barrel condition.

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