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Sure shot Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1005 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #15 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 8:31pm	Print Post
	I tried my 44 .25-20 on my 44 .22-15-60 action, indexed okay, however the .22-15 barrel on the .25-20 action went a bit too far past indexing correctly. I tried a couple more junk 44 barrels on the .25-20 action, one was within 1/16 turn to index, the other was way off. More of a crapshoot than I remember for model 44’s.


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blunderbus41 Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Location: middletown,Ohio Joined: Mar 31^st, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #16 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 10:30am	Print Post
	I just received a early 44 in .22 with the 7 o'clock extractor. needs some work (new wood), the darned thing has double springs? one sliding inside the other, not very strong! has any body encountered this? thanks, john


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #17 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 11:52am	Print Post
	Meaning a laminated mainspring? Wonders will never cease. Detail photos requested ASAP.

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blunderbus41 Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Location: middletown,Ohio Joined: Mar 31^st, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #18 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	Don't know how to post images, took pics with my camera but don't know how to enter them. john


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #19 - Sep 2^nd, 2022 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	I'll PM you my email address, I'll do it. I really want to see this.

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blunderbus41 Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Location: middletown,Ohio Joined: Mar 31^st, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #20 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 9:09am	Print Post
	my wife is trying to send the pics. my e-mail is jeshayes41@hotmail.com. john


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #21 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 9:46am	Print Post
	Here's that mainspring:

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #22 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 9:50am	Print Post
	What that looks like to me is that some long-ago owner stacked two early Favorite springs in there. The physical dimensions of the Favorite and 44 springs are identical, but the Favorite spring is thinner. WHY it was done is conjectural - an attempt to get a faster hammer-fall, maybe?

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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 921 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #23 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 10:47am	Print Post
	I've encountered gimcrack methods of increasing mainspring force in a couple different actions. The ingenuity of Bubba is boundless! I'm guilty of it once too. I have a little German kiplauf, 5.6x35R, whose mainspring wouldn't reliably detonate small rifle primers so I fashioned a brass spacer to fit under the spring that altered its arc in such a way to give it a bit more snap. Worked, and continues to work.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #24 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 11:10am	Print Post
	BTW the rifle is a garden-variety Model 44, identifiable in this photo as pre-1900; as the absence of slotted screws on the right side of the lever and breechblock pivots attests. Would be interested to have the s/n so I can add it to the log.

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blunderbus41 Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Location: middletown,Ohio Joined: Mar 31^st, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #25 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 11:18am	Print Post
	looking at the rifle, the barrel is 22 1/2 in, with 8" oct,1" at the flats, tang sight{orig?} Front two position ivory bead. what model is it? would like to replace the wood, buttstock was broken and patched and front is showing a lot of age. thanks, John


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blunderbus41 Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Location: middletown,Ohio Joined: Mar 31^st, 2013	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #26 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 11:25am	Print Post
	Sorry, short sighted; ser #13936, Purchased at hardware in Middletown early 1900's


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #27 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 11:31am	Print Post
	The barrel's been cropped. OEM was 24" for rimfires and 26" for centerfires. The buttstock of the standard 44 did not change at all from 1896 until the model was finally dropped in the 1930s. Several vendors have new wood, and I recently saw original wood being offered on evilBay. The model number is stamped on the face of the frame. Remove the barrel to see it. I'll be mighty surprised if it isn't 44.

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Sure shot Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1005 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #28 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	Both CPA and Wisner’s are out of stock of #44 mainsprings, but Jack First gun parts has them in stock for a Favorite that would probably work.


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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 921 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 Barrels - Need Schooling Reply #29 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	CPA gets them from Wisner so it's no surprise that if one is out of them the other one is too. I wonder if the OP measured the barrel to the front of the receiver and not from muzzle to breech face?


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