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Jun 25th, 2022 at 9:40am
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Are there any North American companies building rolling blocks?

Links to wen sites would be appreciated , otherwise whatever contact info you have.

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Reply #1 - Jun 26th, 2022 at 7:10am
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There are these.  Never saw one in person.  Made in Indiana.
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 26th, 2022 at 10:18am
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Wow Tippman's rendition is pure ugly!
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 26th, 2022 at 10:25am
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The Tippmanns are much improved in looks from the first ones - prototypes? - of several years ago.  But while I live in south central Indiana, I have never actually seen one, don't know anyone who has, and in my opinion $899 and $999 are high prices for boringly basic machine-made rifles with a choice of three calibers being their only option (it's the .45-70 that's $100 more).  On the other hand, if paying at least $7,000 for one of their 9 mm Gatling guns seems reasonable, the rifles likely seem reasonably priced, maybe even cheap.

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Reply #4 - Jun 26th, 2022 at 1:53pm
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Tipmann Rollers are not only butt ugly, but they are not the same internally in design. If they were half as much I'd still not own one just based on how homely they are.
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2022 at 1:10am
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Rodney Storie, who posts here, might have castings for the No.1 rolling block. One would then have to find a gunsmith to build a rifle from this; I'm sure one is out there.
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2022 at 8:12am
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Yes I do it is the late model sporting frame with your choice of pistol grip or straight grip. I have the butt plates and fore arm tips also.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2022 at 9:31am
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rodneys wrote on Jun 27th, 2022 at 8:12am:
Yes I do it is the late model sporting frame with your choice of pistol grip or straight grip. I have the butt plates and fore arm tips also.


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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2022 at 11:30pm
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It would take a DST option for me to buy a Roller.  Nice rifles, just not my cup of tea...

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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2022 at 8:56am
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KFW wrote on Jun 26th, 2022 at 10:18am:
Wow Tippman's rendition is pure ugly!

All rollers are pretty ugly. Nicest one I ever had was a higher end one from Lone star. At least it had nice wood and checkering to distract the eye from those clunky actions. Tongue
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2022 at 9:17am
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rollers are sleek  and simple  very accurate  get john king to build you one   art
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 3rd, 2022 at 3:19pm
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I have one made by Hardcastle Machine. The highest quality.
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Reply #12 - Aug 4th, 2022 at 12:09pm
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ISS wrote on Aug 2nd, 2022 at 11:30pm:
It would take a DST option for me to buy a Roller.  Nice rifles, just not my cup of tea...

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Rolling blocks had SST that work extremely well, and stay set too. I've got a couple originals with SST that I love shooting as much as any of my DST singles.


I think a Rolling Block Sporting Rifle, (especially a pistol grip version!) are beautiful guns. The actions are one of the simplest, and sturdiest actions ever designed, and the vast number that have seen close 150 years of tough use, and shoot well still is proof of their design.
I've never been a fan of original military rifles of any kind, and same goes for military Rollers. But a nice Sporting Roller is wonderful to my eyes.
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 4th, 2022 at 3:35pm
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Ballards are beautiful, the Big Hammer Sharps is storied, but the early No. 2 Rolling Blocks and the No. 1 sporters and target grade rifles, are very worthy rifles mechanically and aesthetically from any viewpoint.

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Reply #14 - Aug 4th, 2022 at 4:06pm
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I had a beautiful single set trigger roller redone by Verl Sigman in 38-50 Remington Hepburn. Just a wonderful rifle another member here owns now. The trigger was perfectly reliable and light.
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 2:59am
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It is gentlemen, a matter of esthetics and usage with regard to single shot rifles.  I think the 44 1/2 Stevens is the most elegant and beautiful single shot rifle ever made.  Followed by Ballards.  I like the lines, but they are best served by BP loads/pressures.

Followed by the M74 Sharps, and the M77; more because of history.  Millions of Bison were killed by hunters with Sharps, based on records available.  I like the Shilohs because they tolerate pressures beyond what I find tolerable.  I have a LRE in 45-100/2.6" case that was not a lot of fun load working from a bench.  I have wanted one in 50-90 2/5" case for decades, just never found one for sale at a reasonable price.  I was too impatient to order one and wait the 2-3 years for my turn in line.  I have a 77 that has been on order for most of a year.  A 38-55 at 10 lbs will be fun for a 50 round belt full killing Rockchucks.

Rollers, just do not catch my eye.  A DST and PG in 38-55 would be about the only model to tempt me.

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Reply #16 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:09am
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Well I think Sharps with their big side hammers, and ancient front stuffer appearances are kinda homely. They may be extremely strong, but that big hammer has a very slow lock time compared to many center hung hammer single shots.
Can't debate their history, but there were good numbers of Rolling Block rifles also used, although at that period most were military models and not as many Sporting rifles.
Any of the old single shot rifles are plenty strong enough for the BP cartridges they were chambered in. I doubt most people care if you can push an old design further than it was originally chambered for. And both Rolling Blocks, and Ballard rifles were chambered for some pretty stout BP cartridges also. The Ballard was chambered in .45-120, and the Rolling Block for at least the .44-90/105 and maybe larger cartridges. Neither design compares to the Sharps in strength, but they're not going to fail using these big cartridges, or we'd see or hear of it. My Ballard #7 Long-Range is chambered for the .44-100-530 cartridge and still in one piece after almost 150 years.
  

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Reply #17 - Sep 11th, 2022 at 12:46pm
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nothing sleeker than a creed moor  roller   art
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 12th, 2022 at 11:04am
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art_ruggiero wrote on Sep 11th, 2022 at 12:46pm:
nothing sleeker than a creed moor  roller   art


Couldn't agree more Art! But I would like to own an original schuetzen match Roller someday. They're very tough to find as I think most schuetzen shooters didn't want a Rolling Block for that type of shooting. But the few I've seen were gorgeous!
I was very fortunate to finally purchase an original Creedmoor last year in .44-77, but missing all the sights. The stock finish had been stripped, but fortunately it wasn't sanded at all. So I was able to refinish the wood, and get sights to put it back where it should be.
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It's not a minty creampuff, but has a great bore, and shoots excellent. 
  

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Reply #19 - Sep 12th, 2022 at 12:49pm
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art_ruggiero wrote on Aug 3rd, 2022 at 9:17am:
rollers are sleek  and simple  very accurate  get john king to build you one   art


Art, if you are referencing John King of Kila, Mt, I believe he has passed away a year or so ago.
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 12th, 2022 at 1:32pm
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kootne wrote on Sep 12th, 2022 at 12:49pm:
art_ruggiero wrote on Aug 3rd, 2022 at 9:17am:
rollers are sleek  and simple  very accurate  get john king to build you one   art


Art, if you are referencing John King of Kila, Mt, I believe he has passed away a year or so ago.


That's very sad to hear! John was a great guy, and very talented gunsmith. I haven't talked to him in a couple years.
  

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Reply #21 - Sep 12th, 2022 at 10:49pm
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art_ruggiero wrote on Sep 11th, 2022 at 12:46pm:
nothing sleeker than a creed moor  roller   art


Oh, I think the very rare, original No.5 sporting were the sleekest of the rolling blocks. I've only seem them in photos, such as Marcot's book. 

While I have a Lone Star rolling block, I certainly didn't buy it for its aesthetics. A Ballard or a Low Wall or some of the British break open singles are far more attractive to me.
  

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Reply #22 - Sep 13th, 2022 at 7:49am
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Art, if you are referencing John King of Kila, Mt, I believe he has passed away a year or so ago.
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John was alive and well this April/May when I talked to him although his back is bad and he's slowed down a lot from work that he's taking on.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 13th, 2022 at 8:40am
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john is a great guy and has built several fine rifles for me  i have visited him several times but not recently   art ruggiero
  
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Reply #24 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 6:57pm
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Old-Win wrote on Sep 13th, 2022 at 7:49am:


Art, if you are referencing John King of Kila, Mt, I believe he has passed away a year or so ago.


John was alive and well this April/May when I talked to him although his back is bad and he's slowed down a lot from work that he's taking on. [/quote]

Just to clear up things, I was told he had passed away but apparently bad intel was given to the fellow that told me that. I contacted my source after reading Old-Wins post. He called and confirmed John is still standing. I apologize for the misinformation I posted on this site. And I'm glad John is not deceased, he is an asset to our tribe. 
  

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