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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Remington #7 Rolling Block Jun 9^th, 2022 at 6:08pm	Print Post
	Thought I would throw up a few picture here, as well as the gunsmithing section that has the full build thread, for some that may not look at the gunsmith section. Photos of the final gun. There are a few more pictures on the original thread of the build.

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Dusty Texian Junior Member Offline Posts: 58 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #1 - Jun 9^th, 2022 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Outstanding .


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #2 - Jun 9^th, 2022 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Spectacular!

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3487 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #3 - Jun 9^th, 2022 at 10:45pm	Print Post
	wowzah! she's a mighty fine lookin' lil' thing, we'll all agree.


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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 442 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #4 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 8:20am	Print Post
	Amazing work!

	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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Rek Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2015	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #5 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 2:23pm	Print Post
	Well, I sure would like to have one of those!


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John in PA Oldtimer Offline Posts: 569 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #6 - Jul 26^th, 2022 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	Could you post a link here to the build thread? I searched for it in Gunsmithing, but couldn't find it.

	John Wells Hollidaysburg, PA Peabody and Peabody-Martini's Wanted!
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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Online ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1204 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #7 - Jul 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm	Print Post
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	I'm not a complete idiot, some of my parts are missing.
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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 812 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #8 - Jul 27^th, 2022 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	Rek wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 2:23pm: Well, I sure would like to have one of those! Cabelas Kansas City has one, 22lr, they only want $4400 for it. Mike


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #9 - Jul 28^th, 2022 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	Mike, I’d like to see that gun but searching for it is a nightmare. I can’t find it.

	Robert Warren
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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #10 - Jul 28^th, 2022 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	I also searched and couldn't find it, Mike. Bill Lawrence


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lion Full Member Offline Posts: 245 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #11 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	When you were searching did you're computer stay on the kansas city store? My computer kept defaulting to the cabelas store closest to me with no way to change it. Wayne


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #12 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 10:15pm	Print Post
	I changed mine to KC but still didn’t find it.

	Robert Warren
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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 812 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #13 - Jul 31^st, 2022 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	Was in the store last Wednesday, it was still in the rack, at $4400 it might stay awhile. It is very neat. I was surprised to find IMR4895, a bit pricey but I have been looking awhile. Mike


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RDBallard Junior Member Offline Posts: 66 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2020	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #14 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 7:25am	Print Post
	What a beauty


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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 812 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #15 - Aug 13^th, 2022 at 11:04pm	Print Post
	yamoon wrote on Jul 31^st, 2022 at 6:37pm: Was in the store last Wednesday, it was still in the rack, at $4400 it might stay awhile. It is very neat. I was surprised to find IMR4895, a bit pricey but I have been looking awhile. Mike stoped by today, it was gone. Mike


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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 442 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #16 - Aug 16^th, 2022 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	Stopped by the Kansas City Cabela’s gun room yesterday, still there. Took a couple bad photos of the Remington #7. Somewhat rough condition, some surface rust on the barrel. Couldn’t look at the bore to see what it looked like. The tang sight appeared to be missing the stem and peep. This is the rifle Yamoon was talking about earlier in this thread. Richard

	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #17 - Aug 16^th, 2022 at 7:16pm	Print Post
	I was trying to buy the gun but not at the price they are asking. We've been going back and forth but I'm not getting anywhere. Did get some better pictures they sent me though. They told me they could see rifling but that's all I could get out of them. They said the rear sight top stem was broke, but not that the base was wrong, at least from what I have seen on others. The one there looks home made to me. He told me some Remington expert looked at it and verified just the broken stem was the problem. They also said the wood was good with the normal ding and scratches but if you look at the left side, and the bottom behind the grip, it appears to have been cracked and repaired. I asked about the crack and have not been able to get an answer, they stopped talking to me at that point! The strange thing is it does not show on the right side, so don't know. The guy also said he was going to take some steel wool to it and clean up some rust on the action and barrel, I suggested he let the new owner do that.

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #18 - Aug 16^th, 2022 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	Couple more of the area that appears cracked. I also think the grip cap is suspicious, appears fitted off center to the front, but that may be camera angle.
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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 442 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #19 - Aug 16^th, 2022 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	Good luck with your negotiation with Cabelas. It’s a neat rifle,but it certainly has its problems. I didn’t look at it close enough to see the crack or notice how bad it was. I’ve been in this Cabela’s on a somewhat regular basis, maybe twice a year since it opened years ago. I’ve never been able to buy anything there yet. Most what I collect they’ve had higher price tags than I was willing to pay.

	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 812 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #20 - Aug 17^th, 2022 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	I shoot at the Mill Creek gun club in Desoto Ks, a burb of KC, so I stop by Cabelas once a month or so, with the price of gas I don’t go as often as I once did. I did buy a Orberndorf B Mauser sporter from them a few years ago. It was in the Sidney Nebraska Cabelas, this was pre Bass Pro Shop days when they would ship in guns for inspection, I watched it for over 2 years, they finally priced it right and with my veterans discount and another discount I got it for a reasonable price. Mike


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Hartford Tommy Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Jul 24^th, 2017	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #21 - Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	Superb rifle. Wow


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1818 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #22 - Jan 17^th, 2024 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	Still not as nice as BobW's but neat (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #23 - Jan 17^th, 2024 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	bnice wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 8:18pm: Still not as nice as BobW's but neat (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I think the only original part is the action, and it's been blued over the case colors. The wood and barrel are both replacements. But as rare as they are it could still be worth owning.

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #24 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	I’ve seen this gun before, I might even have pictures of it. I would question this even being a #7, I’m betting it was made from a pistol. It may not be definitive, but it doesn’t have the sliding extractor I see on them, no screw in the front upper left of the frame indicating this extractor. This is especially suspicious since it is a 22. And, whats with the two screws and hooks going up over the frame on the left side, definitely not factory. Is it some sort of improvised extractor stop? Maybe Tony Maddox will comment, he has had lots of these #7’s through his hands. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #25 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 12:12pm: I’ve seen this gun before, I might even have pictures of it. I would question this even being a #7, I’m betting it was made from a pistol. It may not be definitive, but it doesn’t have the sliding extractor I see on them, no screw in the front upper left of the frame indicating this extractor. This is especially suspicious since it is a 22. And, whats with the two screws and hooks going up over the frame on the left side, definitely not factory. Is it some sort of improvised extractor stop? Maybe Tony Maddox will comment, he has had lots of these #7’s through his hands. Bob I wondered about those two screws and the pair of pointed tabs going over the frame too? At first I thought maybe some sort of side scope mount for the two screws until I saw one closeup revealing the pointed tabs. I think you may be right about this not even being a true #7 rifle, and likely it might be made from a pistol, making it all a fake. It would have to be really cheap for me to want it, as it would take lots of work to make it more accurate in appearance, and still be a fake; just a better fake.

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #26 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 6:47pm	Print Post
	I would agree Vall. I could be made into a neat gun, saving some features and changing others. Couple more things that aren’t quite right. The lower tang is either loose or not fit very well. The rear sight base makes me uncomfortable, it’s shaped differently from the originals I’ve seen. Then the fat stock just doesn’t seem correct. The good about the gun is it appears, other than the lower tang, to be pretty well done and fitted. I don’t like the fat sides, but could live with it. The white stuff would have to go. The checkering is nice and I think worth saving. If it were mine, I would plan on replacing the white mounts. Looking at the extractor, I would maybe add the sliding style, they just work great. Figure out, and more than likely, make those two screws disappear. Strip the action and all the parts, case harden and blue them accordingly. I was just looking at it again and another thought came to me. Could it be an early casting set or maybe some one machine one from solid steel. The PA stamping, along with no factory stamping, makes me wonder. I saw a gun that someone had taken a #2 and tried making a #7, but it had a longer funny look to it and was very obvious, if you knew what you were seeing, it was not a #7. So, this was not from a #2. Bob
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #27 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 10:17pm	Print Post
	I think this may have started life as an 1867 pistol since that model didn't use a sliding extractor, and had the extractor mounted as part of the breech block. The tang sight is totally wrong, and if it was an 1867 pistol then the area where the sights mounts was also built up to match a later 1871, 1891, 1901, and #7. The "PA" is likely the first letters of the word "PAT'D" and the rest got buffed off when the welding and metal work was draw filed and polished off.

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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 577 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #28 - Jan 19^th, 2024 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Three No.7s ... Top: .22 LR Center: .22 LR re-barreled by Stevens with new forearm Bottom: .25-25 Stevens


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #29 - Jan 19^th, 2024 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	Beautiful rifles Joe!

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #30 - Jan 19^th, 2024 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	Thanks Joe….I’m drooling! I suppose they are all for sale? All three have the sliding extractor. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #31 - Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	I sent a question to the GB seller who has the fake #7 Remington at auction, asking why if it's a real #7 does it not have a sliding extractor, and why the tang sight isn't correct, and no Remington markings on the barrel? Didn't get a response, but soon after the seller posted this addition to his auction: "We are unsure of the model. It has characteristics of a model 7 but please observe the pictures carefully. It's obviously a custom rifle but we're unsure of the original model" So seems the cat's out of the bag, and he's admitted it isn't real.

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #32 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 9:00pm	Print Post
	At $1525 now. It will be interesting to see if it continues to go up now that he has updated the auction.

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Al Aub Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Joined: Nov 5^th, 2022	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #33 - Jan 27^th, 2024 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	That’s a amazing looking rifle


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #34 - Jan 28^th, 2024 at 5:06am	Print Post
	At $1525 now. It will be interesting to see if it continues to go up now that he has updated the auction. As of yesterday evening the rifle was at $1950. So being more "truthful" certainly doesn't seem to have hurt. Bill Lawrence


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #35 - Jan 28^th, 2024 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	It appears there are less bids than before, so some have retracted their bids. But it's been two guys for sometime now still going back and forth. But $1950 is still not much money considering what a real #7 goes for. So maybe those two don't care that it's a fake?

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awp101 Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Location: DFW Joined: Jan 31^st, 2007	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #36 - Jan 29^th, 2024 at 8:30am	Print Post
	Or maybe they just think it's interesting and have the play money to chase it? I had it on my watch list before this thread came up simply because I thought it was neat. I didn't know anything about the No 7 but old .22s are one of my many weaknesses so I kept an eye on it with the idea I might be able to grab it for short money. Which obviously didn't happen...

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lion Full Member Offline Posts: 245 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2012	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #37 - Mar 9^th, 2024 at 7:24pm	Print Post
	Does anyone know the rest of the story? What did it end up going for? The only real ones I have ever seen were at a gunshow in Sioux Falls SD about 10 years ago. A dealer brought about a dozen along for another dealer to pick up. Most had been modified with Pope barrels. Don't think there was an all original one in the bunch. Still interesting to look at.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15746 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7 Rolling Block Reply #38 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	I think it ended up closing at the $1950 bid.

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