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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #90 - May 20^th, 2021 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	The same thing happened in Kansas a few years ago, Kansas Fish & Game was combined with Parks for the same reason, Parks wanted the money fish & game had banked. The hunters lobbied against it, but special interest convinced the legislature that combining the two would save on admin costs and from the things I have seen happen, parks people are running things. Like you say, just blowing off steam. Mike


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #91 - May 20^th, 2021 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	yamoon Well, at least there are two of us!!!

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #92 - May 20^th, 2021 at 6:46pm	Print Post
	I also no longer Hunt but due to a different reason. But you are indeed correct the Sierra Club in my own State and others have absolutely no qualms about building a new Ski Resort on prime habitate game lands. But at the same time they are out to stop any other uses including deer hunting and the deer and other game species are the ones that actually suffer.

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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #93 - Feb 11^th, 2022 at 11:36am	Print Post
	Deer aren't hard to kill. I killed one with an 1860 Colt army percussion revolver. Shot her in the neck and down she went. 30 yard shot. Another check off of my bucket list. It's all about shot placement.

	Mike Brooks
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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #94 - Feb 11^th, 2022 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	True, but most people shouldn’t hunt wit an 1860 colt


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #95 - Feb 11^th, 2022 at 6:58pm	Print Post
	I would suggest that nobody should hunt with an 1860 Colt.

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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #96 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 10:17am	Print Post
	rkba2nd wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 6:58pm: I would suggest that nobody should hunt with an 1860 Colt. I wonder how many deer have been killed with a .44 cal muzzleloader ball in the past couple hundred years? I would suggest people hunt with what ever they prefer that is legal in their state. 35gr of 3fff really makes a round ball move out of that revolver. I don't think you'd want to be on the receiving end after watching how fast that deer went down.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #97 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 10:32am	Print Post
	Deer are not really that hard to kill by an experienced outdoors man who fully knows how to not wound or to make an animal have to suffer. As well as not doing it in a manner that does not waste allot of precious meat. Some do believe that it is not proper to use various firearms but I have also seen allot of meat destroyed and being wasted. By those being over gunned and not fully knowing how to actually humanly take such easily killed game.

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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #98 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:28pm	Print Post
	8.15x46r is legal in Germany for Roe deer, average weight 75 lbs (much smaller than white tail) muzzle energy requirements, 1000 joules at 100 meters, all other deer require a firearm producing a minimum of 2000 joules at 100 meters. The 8.15x46r falls far short of 2000 joules. The round is fine with good shot placement at moderate range, like others have said, lot of deer have been killed with 22 rim fire. Mike


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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #99 - Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:33am	Print Post
	It occurs to me that it's the ability of the man behind the trigger than what caliber he's shooting.

	Mike Brooks
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #100 - Feb 14^th, 2022 at 7:44pm	Print Post
	Redrighthand yes Sir and I do totally agree. Unfortunately there those who believe if they buy an Utra Magnum of some sort and if they can just somehow hit a Deer that they will instantly die. It is why most of the states like Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, etc hate those coming from California that are coming to hunt in thier states.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #101 - Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:28pm	Print Post
	Redrighthand It occurs to me, that if a person has spent the time to become competent behind the trigger, that person should be able to discern which cartridge is BEST suited for the game to be hunted, in concert with an HONEST appraisal of their ability behind the trigger.

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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #102 - Feb 15^th, 2022 at 1:53pm	Print Post
	I have a super 8.15x46r stalking rifle nitro proofed in 1932. I may try again with 150gr .316 Hawk bullets. I have 170gr .318 spritzer from Buffalo arms I use in my J bore Mausers, but I think that is a bit heavy for 8.15x46. Mike


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #103 - Feb 15^th, 2022 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	yamoon Your approach seems much more responsible and well thought out. I wish you well, and am sure of your success.

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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #104 - May 13^th, 2022 at 9:09am	Print Post
	rkba2nd wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:28pm: Redrighthand It occurs to me, that if a person has spent the time to become competent behind the trigger, that person should be able to discern which cartridge is BEST suited for the game to be hunted, in concert with an HONEST appraisal of their ability behind the trigger. I have never killed a deer with a cartridge gun. All of them were killed with a round ball propelled by black powder, 95 per ent flintlock ignition. No challenge in cartridge guns.

	Mike Brooks
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