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Reply #45 - Dec 1st, 2020 at 7:45pm
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Thanks,  ordered a copy from Cornell Publications last Thursday.

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Reply #46 - Dec 1st, 2020 at 8:48pm
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Thing about Trail Boss is that it's fast powder but it has a very low specific energy content.  i.e. it builds pressure fast but that pressure is not sustained as the bullet travels down the barrel.  Good for pistols, not so good for rifles.  A larger charge of something slower is a better bet for a rifle. In the computer model a charge of 6.2 grains of 2400 would get you over 1800  fps, for the same peak pressure as that 3.0 charge of Trail Boss, which will not even break 1400 fps, all other things being equal. (That's assuming a 45 grain jacketed bullet. An equal weight cast bullet will go slower at lower pressures, owing to the lesser  initial engraving force.)

In these days of famine, better-suited powders may not be obtainable, so we have to use what we can get. 

This is why I love Quickload.  You can "try out" dozens of possibilities without ever actually loading a single round. It won't ever give you a fine-tuned optimum load, but it will help you see what loads are not going work well, and why.
  

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Reply #47 - Dec 2nd, 2020 at 8:48am
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uscra112 wrote on Dec 1st, 2020 at 8:48pm:
Thing about Trail Boss is that it's fast powder but it has a very low specific energy content.  i.e. it builds pressure fast but that pressure is not sustained as the bullet travels down the barrel.  Good for pistols, not so good for rifles.  A larger charge of something slower is a better bet for a rifle. In the computer model a charge of 6.2 grains of 2400 would get you over 1800  fps, for the same peak pressure as that 3.0 charge of Trail Boss, which will not even break 1400 fps, all other things being equal. (That's assuming a 45 grain jacketed bullet. An equal weight cast bullet will go slower at lower pressures, owing to the lesser  initial engraving force.)

In these days of famine, better-suited powders may not be obtainable, so we have to use what we can get. 

This is why I love Quickload.  You can "try out" dozens of possibilities without ever actually loading a single round. It won't ever give you a fine-tuned optimum load, but it will help you see what loads are not going work well, and why. 


Thanks again for the feedback, that's why I love this forum. Can you tell me what Quickload is? Sounds like an app!

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Reply #48 - Dec 2nd, 2020 at 12:21pm
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It's a ballistics software.  My copy runs on a Windows laptop.   

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Reply #49 - Dec 3rd, 2020 at 7:16pm
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Hey Retriever, I think I have a set of K Hornet dies laying around. Want me to look?
  

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Reply #50 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 3:53pm
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Old Soldier wrote on Dec 3rd, 2020 at 7:16pm:
Hey Retriever, I think I have a set of K Hornet dies laying around. Want me to look?


That would be awesome,  yes please. 

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Reply #51 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 12:50am
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I can't hold my tongue any longer.  This gun is a grenade just waiting to take off a finger or remove an eye.  Fit a .32 S&W barrel and be comfortable with shooting it.  The marksman action is probably stronger than the favorite and other Stevens boys rifles, but it is no match for the hornet or k-hornet. You will not own this gun forever, so the injured will be a son, neighbor, etc.  I don't want to come across as a  know it all, but I want you to be safe.  Wyoold
  
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Reply #52 - Dec 5th, 2020 at 1:54am
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Um.......have you read the thread?
  

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Reply #53 - Dec 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm
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I looked all over for those 22K dies and can't find them, sorry. I can see them right where they've been for 20 years, but somebody moved them. To a better spot no doubt. If I do run across them, I'll holler.
  

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Reply #54 - Dec 7th, 2020 at 4:55pm
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Old Soldier wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm:
I looked all over for those 22K dies and can't find them, sorry. I can see them right where they've been for 20 years, but somebody moved them. To a better spot no doubt. If I do run across them, I'll holler.


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Reply #55 - Dec 8th, 2020 at 6:43am
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If I remember correctly the lee 22 collet neck sizing die has enough shoulder room to size 22 K hornet.

ETA. Or maybe it was 223 improved. A google search may provide the answer.
  
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Reply #56 - Dec 8th, 2020 at 11:49am
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This ought to do it.

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Still leaves you without a bullet seating die, though, and it'll size too small for plain lead bullets.
  

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Reply #57 - Dec 8th, 2020 at 1:59pm
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Actually got my hands on a nearly new 2 pc RCBS FL .22 K-Hornet Die Set  came with Sizer/De-Capping Die and Bullet Seating/Crimping Die. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong though because I can seem to get it to expand the case mount.

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Reply #58 - Dec 8th, 2020 at 2:12pm
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You need a Lyman M expander die like this (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
2 dies sets are for jacketed bullets and don't give the little expansion needed for lead ones. 3 die sets include the expander.
  
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Reply #59 - Dec 8th, 2020 at 2:57pm
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oneatatime wrote on Dec 8th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
You need a Lyman M expander die like this (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
2 dies sets are for jacketed bullets and don't give the little expansion needed for lead ones. 3 die sets include the expander.


Thanks for the tip, I'll see where I can source one of these up here.

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