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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #60 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:34am	Print Post
	We are back to the same old argument how Traditional is Traditional enough. If we keep going down the rabbit hole where only black powder is Traditional then what’s next? Is Goex not legal because it wasn’t manufactured in 1917? How bout those non-mercuric primers? SPG, no way bub. This usually boils down to “my way is Traditional yours isn’t.” What we need is an ASSRA Inquisition where a traveling auto du fe’ is held at each member local club. We could have sinners tearfully come forward confess their sins and toss their Millers in the bonfire. Followed by an execution or two. Purity above practicality 40 Rod


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #61 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Very well said BP, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. JLouis

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #62 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	40Rod it was a simple question that needs to be addressed, the organization made the rules and it should take the time to clearly define them. If they need to be revised to preserve the class then revise them least we loose the class all together. It is not a matter of my way or hit the hi way by individual thought nor by the discretion of each individual Schuetzen Meister. Its a matter of the organization stepping up to the plate to clearly define the rules in a manner that is clearly understood, without question or debate. Is that really asking to much from those that pay their dues and support the organization? JLouis

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #63 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	WOW, All this over a simple little primer and trying to get a handle on "the sprit of the rules"! Yet, I hear no indignation regarding the CPA You realize that only three basic parts will interchange between a 44 1/2 and a CPA. The beech block, hammer (if you can even call that a basic part) and the lower tang/trigger. I'm not against the CPA's use in Traditional but, it is clearly NOT a 44 1/2, rifle, as defined in the 4 catagorys that John always refers to. But, I do think it should have a clause in the rules like the scopes do. Even then, if that were done, the draw bolt stock mounting shouldn't be allowed. Frank
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #64 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 4:28pm	Print Post
	40_Rod, To my way of thinking, the best way to keep from having to repeatedly go down a rabbit hole is to not have ever allowed the hole to get dug in the first place.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #65 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 1:07am	Print Post
	BP again very well said. Unfortunatly I can't help but think that hole might be a safe heaven from those issues, opps arguments that keep popping up as mentioned in 40Rods last post. I kind of got a kick out of his comments on BP, Goex, SPG, Non-Mercuric Primers and topping it off by saying "No Way Bub". Does that mean there might be a real issue with the rules or that he's above them? He spoke his peace on the mattet as he should but he should not look at others doing the same as being whiners. He also continues to think there are no issues and that everything is hunky dory with the T Class rules yet he might have just pointed out several that he would have issues with. I am not sure what the burning of the Millers, Confessing Of Sins, Purity and Execution comments were all about but they do seem to make a mockery of the issues at hand or maybe it's us? JLouis

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #66 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	During this discussion, the small rifle primer issue was brought up regarding it's use in 32/40. Another forum member advised me that Marlin had small rifle primer cartridges made for their rifles, in 32/40, 38, 40 and 45 calibers. So, if there was any consern of the legality of using 30 American case for 32/40 here is the 1887 article written by Marlin to customers. Lots of other reading to be had also (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Frank

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #67 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Frank, Thanks for the link. Nicely done finding the info confirming that both primer sizes were used for some common cartridges prior to the 1917 rule cut-off date. Should help the Schuetzenmeister to be able to issue a final decision and to provide for any updates needed for rules revision/clarification.

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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1008 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #68 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	I have some really old 32 Win Special cases with the small rifle primer which I use to make 32/40 and 32/35 cases. Ledball


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Mal Full Member Offline Posts: 215 Location: Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA Joined: Dec 5^th, 2012	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #69 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:08am	Print Post
	Bohemian way, G'day Charles , did you ever find out where you can get your hands on a reamer for the 30/30 Wesson? I seem to think you original question got rather lost!! CH4 have the loading dies in stock,Let me know if you find a reamer.Im hoping to build one on a small Martini,I have a breach seating system that works quite well on them. Cheers From Aust, Mal.


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desert-dude Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 439 Location: Selah Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2013	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #70 - Aug 29^th, 2017 at 11:14pm	Print Post
	Ouch! and I suspect that is with a fixed pilot. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I think John Holland is/was also looking for one. HTH


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1725 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: WTF 30-30 Wesson dimensions Reply #71 - Aug 30^th, 2017 at 11:01am	Print Post
	LIKE: "How many Angels will fit on the head of a pin" beltfed/arnie


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