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Reply #30 - Jun 9th, 2015 at 1:52am
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Reply #31 - Jun 9th, 2015 at 2:05am
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This is the last page. Note that it is a paste in, suppliment with his 25 and 45 caliber designs. On the inside cover, he states that the 45 cals will be available in early '93 (he hopes) so, the 25 cals like I have may have been available about the same time, possibly.

I'm also picturing my mold and it's dimensions. Mine is the 25 - 2.
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Reply #32 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 2:56pm
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I was asked to check out a Pioneer mold so, I drew it up, too.

The next two are a Modern Bond mold that I have. Both bullets are cut in the same block and are from the same cherry just one is shorter. The second set of MB mold numbers are the designed length but, for what ever reason, it didn't come out that way. Shrinkage would allow for .005 but, they are .015 short.

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Reply #33 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 3:22pm
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More bullets.
My 319273 & Andels version of the 311403
Beltfed's 308281 & 311403

A note:
On the 308281, there is a dirt cather groove at the juction of the nose & the SR band. The program won't let me draw it though.

Additional note:
I found a article by JoeB and in that article, it had a drawing of this bullet, done by Bobbie Kell Jr. The dimensions vary a little from the bullets I got from Beltfed, the main one is the meplat, .200 vs .184. It's not suprising since Ideal/Lyman cherry's differed through out there manufactoring history.





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Reply #34 - Feb 8th, 2016 at 12:20pm
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Froggie sent me these two 33 cal bullets, the 338237 & 89. 

I resently got the Bo Clerke 33 cal mold.

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Reply #35 - Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:34pm
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Some new 32's for the Library, including a very interesting Zischang.

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Reply #36 - Jan 5th, 2017 at 7:16pm
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Our forum member, Fritz send me this Paul Jones catalog to post for everyone. Thank you, very much, Fritz.

I'm also adding Bill Smith mold a excellent New York mold maker, that's not with us any longer.

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Reply #37 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 5:31pm
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I'm falling behind on my bullet project. For this post, I'm adding all the different variation of the 25 cal Mos molds, that I have samples from, plus the NOE version from a sample that someone sent him.

First, is my newest one. I got it from Westerner.

Next is the bullet that JerryH shoots.

Then the NOE version

Last, the cylinderical bullet that I design, based on Jerrys mold. There is also a GC version.

Tomorrow, I will add a brooks version and a Darr version.

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Reply #38 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 2:03pm
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As promiced. The Brooks and Darr bullets. 

I now own the Brooks mold and will modify it as shown in the second drawing, before I use it. I think one of the important features of this Mos and Mos copys, is the shallow grooves, it adds strength to the bullets body.

The last drawing is with the groove depth of JerryH's mold.

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Reply #39 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 1:49pm
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I got another 311365 mold, a few days ago. Check out the drawaing of the first 311365 mold (newer Ideal mold), on page 2 of this thread, it's the same length but, quite different.

Next is a Bo Clerke, 32 cal.

Then the Egan bullet, made for 32 cal BSing.

Last, the RCBS 25 cal mold.

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Reply #40 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 5:04pm
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A year or more ago.i bought a Andela mold, off Ebay. I hadn't heard of him but, he made every nice molds, out of 11L14. 

Last weekend, I found a 17th edition (1997) of Gun Digest and while looking through it I found a ad for Andela molds. I was supprized at how many molds he made, there must be quite a few out there.

Mine is electric pin marked and the poor picture, reads .309 x 301E

Here is the info in the Gun Digest, I think it may help others identify his molds, when they are found.

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Re: Bullet Designs and Specs
Reply #41 - Mar 8th, 2019 at 7:04pm
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I was referring to the bullet shape, not the mold. Sorry I didn’t mean to offend. It looks like 1st class work.
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Reply #42 - Apr 4th, 2019 at 3:50pm
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Here is some great H&G info and info on shrinkage for different alloys.

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Re: Bullet Designs and Specs
Reply #43 - Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:07pm
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Frank, I’ve curious to see how your program assesses the Gropie Mould bullet, I offer wondered what it would show! I have a Mould but never used it. Not sure if the name spelling! 
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Reply #44 - Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:08pm
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Tom. I don't have a Grope transonic mold but. I'm familar with the shape of the nose. I dont believe my program will draw that shape..

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