Waterman,
Did you notice the paper blown from the muzzle as the third shooter fires in the video? I wonder if its paper from a bag of powder or a paper patched bullet? I've never seen a paper patch come off in that way. 

Tissue paper possibly? Used as filler? 

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Biggi
First, thanks so much for increasing my knowlege of these fine German Rifles. I would like to ask if there is a source for some of the Diopters shown on your site. I purchased one not long ago, on E-bay but would like to fit another on one of my Zimmerstutzens.

Thanks Tom

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Yes, we use toilet paper for damp (holding the powder near the primer). Normally it is enough, if you roll a small ball out of a quarter of one leaf of a 3-ply version of toilet paper. 

I cannot identify the shooter`s face, so I cannot ask him, how he damps. An other possibility is to damp with dentist`s cotton batting in diameter of 8 millimeters (like the shell). From a cotton rod (length 50mm) you take a slim slice about 3-4mm and damp the powder with it to the primer. 

Biggi

According to information I received in the last years from schuetzen-friends who damp with dentist's cotton, the cotton is not saturated with chemicals, which are able to damage inside the barrel. Because the heat of the burning powder would release the chemicals in the cotton. The old steel is eventually prone to chemical releases.

Some schuetzen-friends damp since decades with dentist's cotton and have no problems at all. But damping with semolina is a science for master practitioner. With semolina you can really damage your barrel...

Biggi

Hello waterman!

I have made the same experiences like you, the 30-30 work very good in my AydtI, but in my Martini there is nearly now chance. So I use the RWS 8.15-shells with my "bitchy" Martini and for my "good-natured" AydtI I can use each shell-type I can get...

Yesterday I got a delivery from the H&N new production of 8.15er bullets. Here at home I've only the .318 / 148grain. The 500-pieces package has the weight of 5 kilogrammes. The postal-costs to US are 35 Euro. And the package of the 500 bullets are 50 Euro. Total amount to send them to US = 85 Euro = 108 US$.

Biggi

Hi Trapdoor Dick.

This is just a "simple diopter", I think good use for Zimmerstutzen. It is original from approx. 1890 or 1900. I've bought it recently from the great-grandson of the former owner. Since 1945 the diopter was stored in the attic. The associated Stutzen was destroyed in 1945 in Germany by... guess who?!?! ... the Allied forces...


What shall I check for you? I can try it, perhaps I'm successful...

Biggi

David, our grandfathers and fathers tell also with tears in their eyes, that they have seen the destroying of European cultural treasures: artful engraved and carved feuerstutzen and hunting-shotguns, with gold inlays on barrel and system-plate, ivory stock decoration.

But there where also the soldiers, who took them over to USA. Also our shooting society banners, our Schuetzen-Koenig-chains and other devotional objects like the goblets or medals. (If you have good luck, you can buy them back at ebay or other US-auction houses...)

So a big part of the old German schuetzen-history is lost by destroying or plundering the club houses. Also while bombing down the cities in WWII, the Germans have lost their schuetzen-society-documents like the journals. 

I'm always glad, if I find something historical of Munich's lost schuetzen-history at US-ebay to bring it back home to Bavaria.


Biggi

As far as I know, H&N doesn't export to the US.  The stuff isn't exactly cheap, so I presume they think they wouldn't be competitive on the US market.  The airgun pellets can be found, I believe, but the 'normal' bullets not.