Uhhh,,, Could you say that again? In English??

Ahhh a classic case of PWD (posting when drinking) , I wondered if it was eubonics....

Come on guys! It ain't Ben's fault that he is from Virginia.

The questions are serious though, and Mr. MP nailed the description:

>>>> a Sharps Borchardt, in caliber .22-3000 Lovell, with a lined barrel by C.C. Johnson   stocked by William L. Humphrey of Round Hill, Virginia with an Alkanet root stained stock . <<<<

The rifle is in excellent condition. Any further information and idea of its value with dies and brass and such?

Glenn

Ben,  CC Johnson's shop records still exist and his grandson is on this board from time to time...maybe he can help you out with some info about when the rifle was built, what CC and whoever else did on it at the time, etc (so you could tell what was done later.)  He will need the 3 or 4 digit number you will found stamped on the lower side of the barrel (under the fore arm wood) to track it down.  Also, can you tell whether this was based on a military or a sporter receiver?  Is it paneled, and if yes, with what material?  All of these, as well as condition, will lead to an ultimate ability to ESTIMATE worth, even though the rifle is not in hand to do a more firm evaluation.

HTH, Froggie

In picture #3, does it say "22 long rifle" or just "long rifle" on the barrel?
That is a nice looking old varmit rifle!

Fellas, from what I see that is a reworked military Borchardt action. The front of the reciever has a flat bottom where the sling swivel used to be.It was common when making these into varmint or sporting rifles to machine it off and make flat bottom. All the sporting or target rifles I have are rounded at the bottom. The other place is at the top front of the reciever, here again it is plain and square shaped where the sporting models had a shaped and relievd top edge that went from the front of the reciever to where the breech block face is in the reciever. Having said all this does not mean to knock this fine old rifle. Still a desirable piece. Confusion?? In the original post bens said it was in 22-3000 Now we know this was one of CC Johnsons favorite calibers is it a 22-3000 or is it a .22 long rifle? I in fact have a CC Johnson 22-3000 on a Borchardt. But on close examination realised he had sleeved right inside the original bore, I could still see rifling at the muzzle where the liner was soldered in. So, I disassembled the rifle and heated the barrel up on the kitchen stove until I saw solder weeping and  then took it down to the celler and drove the liner out. Guess what? There was still another liner in it. So, I heated it up again and drove that one out and found an almost pristene .45 caliber bore inside. It is an original Sharps barrel.
I had to sleeve the chamber area because it had been reamed out to make a head or large end for the chamber end of the barrel in 22-3000. I then restored this rifle and shot it for many years and it was and still is a really fine rifle. So bens you have fine pc of history and as froggie said the records are available. I think you can get it documented right through ASSRA. HTH and congradulations, FITZ

I’m obviously over my head and unable to communicate on this subject.  I’m sure that others with more experience with rifles such as yours can better help you.  ??? ??? ???

Ben - when it comes to value there are many ways of establishing it.
1. Comparitive value of similar product.
2. Cost to produce.
3. Emotional value - it was my father's only gun ....

Let me say that often (useful for purchasing guns) that the fast nickle beats the slow dime.  When someone NEEDS money the relative value grows smaller.  So too, crank in a little competition (auction) and the prices go way up!

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I think you just repeated what Ben said re the 1922 bbl.

Also I think the stockwork looks fairly professional and strongly resembles those few Humphrey stocks I've seen, with the exception of there being no checkering on Ben's stock. A few Humphrey stocks can be seen in Whelen's book Mister Rifleman. While maybe not quite as nice as the beautiful and enduring style of the G&H or Hoffman rifles of the same time period, the Humphrey stocks are nevertheless very attractive and well-proportioned. I'd be proud to own the rifle, Humphrey-stocked or not.

FITZ of course is correct, the action came from either a musket or a Business Rifle as shown by the receiver contours. BTW not all muskets were military contracts, I have a very early Borchardt musket with a factory letter showing shipment to a store in NYC.
Good luck, Joe

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Actually I thought it was kinda well done for what it is...........

The examples of the C.C. Johnson rifles I have examined, owned and shot all had metalwork that can only be described as impeccable, and the stockwork on this particular example is much better-looking than most I've seen. Like I said, I'd be proud to own it.

Remember tastes change, and it's a fact that some of these old custom single shots, even the varmintized ones, are becoming quite desirable. BP (and single shot) rifles went out of fashion for a long time but came back with a rush about 20 yrs ago, and now it seems that it's the custom rifles' turn.
FWIW, good luck, Joe

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Apparently you are.  Ben tells me it brought twice what I paid for a similar action.
Brent

Thanks, Joe, I'll need it.   

Don't forget how many times I've dissed hammerless rifles as being too ugly to deserve a second life - Now I have way too much sunk into this Borchie to turn back (.38-55 btw), AND I have a .577/450 Martini on the way.  What a hypocrit.  I can hardly face the mirror in the  morning any more.   

But that lowwall you sold me is still my most accurate rifle by far and my favorite.   

Brent

PS.  $600 for a Win 5A with leather case is a total steal!  Has no one here noticed what scopes sell for these days?   

I'm sorry Gert, I cannot say that I share your love of the things, but I do see them as "proper" rifles for the chore at hand.  So, I guy has to do what a guy has to do.  Mine is a .577/450 that looks like:
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very nice

what calibre is that thing?

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Would that include eland?  That's my intention for my 577/450.

Brent

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I couldn't quite figure it out either. 5A scopes in that condition are bringing $400-500 all day long, and one prominent single shot dealer said that the case should bring almost as much as the scope. Go figure. Well, at least someone else got a really good deal on a rig that we may never see again. You guys just remember, you saw it here first and passed it up!

MB, that's a heckuva nice-looking sidelever, reminds me of my Field's Patent sidelever Martini but yours is a lot nicer. Regards, Joe