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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4145 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	38-70 Black Powder. It got better. Yesterday at 4:22pm	Print Post
	Today I tried some new bullets including some of my go to Saeco 571 303 gr cast 30-1 that I sized down to .377 so they would slip fit into the cases. 55 gr of Swiss 1.5f with iron sights at 200 yds. The first 4 shots went into 2-3/4"and shot 5 opened the group up to 4". Much better than the 18" group I got last week with a different bullet. I only had 6 rounds loaded with this bullet. Shot 1 was to the right and I adjusted the sight. And yes the target was upside down.
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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2739 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 38-70 Black Powder. It got better. Reply #1 - yesterday at 8:36pm	Print Post
	Much better. Good that you had the target upside down. I was going to ask if you were doing some trick shooting and holding the rifle upside down


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4145 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 38-70 Black Powder. It got better. Reply #2 - yesterday at 9:56pm	Print Post
	I always shoot the German ring target upside down. Easier to score a 250 if the center is a 52. I was thinking about your advice of annealing the Starline brass and remembered that I did that when I first got them. I did clean between shots with one patch wet with Simple Green. I hadn’t made a proper blow tube. I am going to go ahead and order some additional brass and donate an existing one for a blow tube.

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2739 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 38-70 Black Powder. It got better. Reply #3 - yesterday at 11:23pm	Print Post
	You know I've never been a big believer in blow tubes. Except for maybe the first year of shooting black powder, I've always wiped between shots. I believe you get a more consistent bore condition, better accuracy, and certainly higher velocity. I think blow tubes became popular because people thought it was faster for time restricted matches like silhouette. In matches where there is more time given ( like midrange and long range ), I've never seen anyone use a blow tube. It's always wiping, or the new Buffalo Arms bore pigs. I like a Tipton nylon brush and 2-3 patches damp with 10%water soluble oil and 90% water. ( not dripping wet patches, excess water in the bore isn't great and causes leading). I do have a bunch of blow tubes but they just sit in a box. Chris.


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4145 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 38-70 Black Powder. It got better. Reply #4 - yesterday at 11:44pm	Print Post
	I just had a thought. Ouch! What would make cleaning between shots easier would be a spring loaded telescoping cleaning rod. Maybe 12" long when compressed. Load a patch and trigger the extension and it pushes the patch out the front. Withdraw and recompress. Much easier to manage.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12641 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 38-70 Black Powder. It got better. Reply #5 - Today at 2:50am	Print Post
	When I was a kid I had a fishing pole like that. Got laughed at a lot but I loved it. It was a deluxe full size rig and I could carry it on my trail bike real easy when collapsed. You come up with some neat ideas Jack.

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