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Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Yesterday at 1:25am
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I have been shooting my 1885 High Wall 45-70 using 520gr cast bullets over 64gr FFFg Wano black with reasonable success, but in an attempt to reduce recoil I'm thinking of trying a 420gr conical cast bullet to see if that helps. Also wondering if maybe reducing the powder load would also reduce recoil to a more acceptable level (for me). Does anyone have any experience using these lighter lead bullets? Any thoughts would be appreciated  Smiley
  
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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #1 - yesterday at 9:04am
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If your staying with black powder switch to FG .
  
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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #2 - yesterday at 9:46am
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I use 12 grs Unique with a Lyman 385 gr in my 1885 Hi wall and 1888 Trapdoor. Very pleasant shooting and good accuracy. I've also loaded up the trapdoor with 65 grains of 2F and a Lee 405 HB Recoil wasn't too bad. Years ago I had a 525 gr Postell type mold and it was a shoulder bruiser with 65 grs of 2F. The most I could fit in my modern cases. Those heavy bullets add kick.

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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #3 - yesterday at 10:02am
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I've been using a 350 grain bullet with 60 grains of FFg. in both the 45-70 and 50-70.  Really tames down a carbine.

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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #4 - yesterday at 10:41am
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The carbine load used by the cavalry was 55 grains and a 405 grain bullet. It makes big difference in the lighter rifles.
  
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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #5 - yesterday at 1:20pm
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Hard felt wads will fill the void left by a reduced charge.
  
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Reply #6 - yesterday at 2:44pm
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"No More Wads: Around 1886, the military discontinued the use of filler wads in the carbine cartridge.Deeper Seating: Instead of a filler, the arsenal simply seated the 405-grain bullet deeper into the case directly on top of the 55-grain powder charge, which naturally shortened the overall cartridge length and made it easily distinguishable from the rifle round."
  
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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #7 - yesterday at 5:56pm
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Just by switching from 3fg to 1fg you'll be surprised how the recoil turns into a push rather than a jump.
  
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Re: Load for lighter 45-70 bullet
Reply #8 - yesterday at 6:15pm
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It's been years since I loaded some but around 5 or 6 grains of unique and an appropriate sized round lead ball and I think lube smeared on top is a fun round to plink with. I'm sure a search will find better directions.
  
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