Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2  Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma (Read 585 times)
rr2241tx
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 144
Location: San Marcos
Joined: Mar 27th, 2012
Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Aug 16th, 2026 at 12:30pm
Print Post  
There's a certain element of risk buying auction guns you cannot inspect. This one bit me. It is a first pattern Aydt from Clark Ehler's collection and scratched an itch I've had for too long. Unfortunately, the auction description failed to disclose that the hammer spring was missing. Compound that by the fact that the spring required is different than those documented in Alte Scheibenwaffen books. My gunsmith had a go at it by adapting a Winchester High wall spring on a perch which is shown in the photo. It imparts too little force by the time the firing point reaches the primer. I'm looking for someone who can make a proper spring for me so I can shoot this rifle in our local competitions. Tom
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bnice
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1985
Location: Iowa
Joined: Nov 30th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #1 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 2:09pm
Print Post  
seems to be going around, be nice to see a set of drawings for the various Aydt actions. That said is this the same spring Bob W just posted his drawings for on this forum 

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #2 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 2:38pm
Print Post  
bnice wrote on Aug 16th, 2026 at 2:09pm:
seems to be going around, be nice to see a set of drawings for the various Aydt actions. That said is this the same spring Bob W just posted his drawings for on this forum 

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


We have been talking about it through PM’s because when he saw my post, thought the same as you.  Before I would attempt it, I would like to see what it was suppose to look like.  But, if it is straight, like the one there now, and it’s just formed correctly or not strong enough, it would not be hard to make.

I’m not sure what that spring did on Tim’s rifle, but thought it was for retaining the forearm.  Something like a sxs shotgun uses.  Maybe Tim will see this post and explain what it does.

The spring I made was a really stout one.  It would take a real man to cock a hammer if it fit.  As simple as that spring looks, it was a tough one to make.
Bob


  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #3 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 2:41pm
Print Post  
I readily admit that I know nothing about these rifles.  Are they all striker actions?

That said, what am I actually looking at in the picture?   
Bob
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12458
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #4 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 4:12pm
Print Post  
In Bavaria where Aydt rifles are used often, all Aydt owners always have spare springs in their kit. Aydts are known to break springs. I've had two break. I've made several and while not difficult to make found them difficult to harden and temper. I do not recall ever seeing an Aydt with a spring attached with a screw.

Will post pictures of my Aydt breech block and spring. 

Bob, they have an internal hammer.
« Last Edit: Aug 16th, 2026 at 4:21pm by westerner »  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12458
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #5 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 4:27pm
Print Post  
There is or used to a be a man in Germany that made never break Aydt springs. Biggi showed one to me when I was in Munich. Was made similar to an auto leaf spring. Had three leaves and bound with three brass bands similar to the bands on auto leaf springs. Looked to me like it was made fom a spring from a lawn mower starter spring. 

If and when I break another spring I'm going to make one.
« Last Edit: Aug 16th, 2026 at 6:00pm by westerner »  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #6 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 5:47pm
Print Post  
That spring isn’t any where near as substantial as a main spring in an American made rifle!

What does the springs loose end bear against?
Bob
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12458
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #7 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 5:58pm
Print Post  
The spring bears againts the pointy thing above the pivot hole. The breech block in my picture is upside down.
  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #8 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 6:33pm
Print Post  
westerner wrote on Aug 16th, 2026 at 5:58pm:
The spring bears againts the pointy thing above the pivot hole. The breech block in my picture is upside down.


Looks pretty simple!

Tom’s gunsmith must have drilled the hole for the spring he installed.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #9 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 6:36pm
Print Post  
Is the pointy thing on the hammer for cocking?   
If so, where’s the sear?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12458
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #10 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 8:09pm
Print Post  
The pointy thing on the hammer is the hammer sear. As the breech block rises the intermediate sear catches the hammer sear very similar to a Winchester single shot and rolls the hammer back into the cocked position. 

The end of the mainspring bears against the pointy thing on the breech block at the pivot point. When the trigger is pulled the kickoff jumps up and hits the intermediate sear releasing the hammer.
  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #11 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 9:30pm
Print Post  
Okay, I think I got it.

What’s the reason for the hole in the head end of the spring?

  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12458
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #12 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 9:49pm
Print Post  
Looks like a punch mark. 

Had to take the Aydt apart to make sure I was describing it correctly. Man did it need a cleaning. Relearned the assembly sequence. Goes together but one way. First the intermediate sear, then the breech block and then the lever.
  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2168
Joined: Mar 19th, 2013
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 10:08pm
Print Post  
Thanks.   

I’ll stop asking questions….at least for now!
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12458
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Aydt Hammer Spring Dilemma
Reply #14 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 11:45pm
Print Post  
A gun got cleaned..... Wink
  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 
Send TopicPrint