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Re: What to do with a mistaken purchase
Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2025 at 3:53pm
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MrTipUp wrote on Oct 11th, 2025 at 3:14pm:
About this saving parts so that some future owner can restore the gun's "originality".  If the gun and parts are sold privately, that's not a bad plan.  But if the gun is sent to auction, my own long experience is that most often the parts don't stay with the gun but are sold buy themselves or lotted with other parts.  More sadly, in those instances when I've pointed out that a gun and a set of parts were clearly intended to stay together, the auctioneer has almost always told me what I can do with myself; his/her job is to make the most money.

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I agree.  If you want the parts to stay together, you have to find a like minded individual to sell the rifle to, and then make it cheap enough that he will buy it.

No-one in their right mind ever restores one of these reworked + extra trashed out parts included rifles back to the "original" trashed out state.  The rifle reworked will almost universally be worth more than the poor condition original, unless it's reworked to an undesirable caliber.   

In this particular case, the original with a decent 25 rimfire bore will be worth more than a 38 special relined one, so if an orphan barrel and a centerfire breechblock was found, lined to 38 special, and used to replace the original barrel, someone in the future might thread back in the 25 caliber barrel to enhance the rifle value, and then sell of the lined 38 special barrel cheap.

On the other hand, if the donor barrel was lined to .25-20, then the rifle would be worth as much or more than the .25 rf one, because it's a desirable caliber, so only someone wanting to complete a collection with an obsolete caliber would restore it to the original .25 rf barrel.  As more and more of these are converted to other calibers, it may get to the point that the .25 rf original is desirable as the sole remaining example of it's caliber.

I'm definitely not in the purist camp.  I'm in the "rework them to a reasonable and desirable caliber, don't rebarrel to something that is marginally safe, just because you can" faction.   

I'm dealing with a couple high end highwalls right now, that the last owner had made in two very undesirable calibers, just because he could.  Their value is easily $1000 low just because of the calibers.  Pretty much low by the amount it will take to rebarrel them to something conventional.
  
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Re: What to do with a mistaken purchase
Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2025 at 4:29pm
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Old+timer wrote on Oct 11th, 2025 at 3:28pm:
Sure shot wrote on Oct 11th, 2025 at 12:42pm:
Why not rebarrel it to a mild centerfire round, locate a centerfire breach block,and save the original barrel and breach block so it could be returned to original.

Now that's an option I hadn't given thought to and it's a good one.  Thank you~!!

 
You catch on eventually. This from your Opinions Sought thread.

"Yes that will alter the value. 

Replace the original barrel, get a CF block from MVA or? Save all the original parts and you have done nothing wrong and you will be able to shoot your rifle."
  

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Re: What to do with a mistaken purchase
Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2025 at 7:58pm
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As of 15 minutes ago when the mail dropped off a package, I have the same problem.  I received a high wall with #3 barrel, in 40-70 SS.  Picked it up for the price of a beat up low wall, but the bore is sharp and nearly clean, the action is crisp and clean with case turned silver, wood is decent with usual dings and dents.  No major problems. Only thing is it's missing the sights, and I have those if I want to put it back to original.

To me, the rifle was a cheap action.  The barrel would sell nicely on ebay.  So would the stocks, if I decide to restock the action, which I normally do.  By the time I sell the stocks and barrel, would have nearly a free action.

Is this the right thing to do?  An original 40-70SS barrel has a slow twist, so worthless for anything I want to do with it.  A custom rifle I build on the action would be worth what I'll have in the action, the parts, and maybe even a bit of the labor.  So, I'm not losing value, and would have a useful rifle instead of a marginal collectible, taking up space in the safe.

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Re: What to do with a mistaken purchase
Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2025 at 9:17pm
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They're only original once.  If they've been used and show those scars, that's character.  Original is not "as new" in my book.  Original is unaltered yet still usable.

I altered one drilling from 1936 and hated myself for it ever since and vowed never to do it again.   

That's me.

Having said that, it is your firearm and you should do with it that which puts the biggest smile on your face.
  
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Re: What to do with a mistaken purchase
Reply #19 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:58am
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if the barrel is clean may be get a CF block and make up 25-10 Halstead
  
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Re: What to do with a mistaken purchase
Reply #20 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 9:07pm
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John Taylor wrote on Oct 11th, 2025 at 10:16am:
Old+timer wrote on Oct 11th, 2025 at 9:57am:
Let's count the purists and see how many more buyers there are by separating the potential buyers into two camps.
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Thank you for your response.  You are the only guy who cared enough to respond.  We are in the same camp~!!  If you are the real John Taylor I've read so many positive remarks about your work and am thinking very, very seriously about using your services.
  
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