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Welding a highwall lever
Oct 18th, 2006 at 10:15am
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When welding a highwall lever that is going to be color case hardened, what rod or material is used so that it will color case uniformly?  Is there a specific low carbon rod that one should use?  Would TIG welding be the best way to go? Thanks, Old-Win
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 18th, 2006 at 6:21pm
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            I would tig weld the lever with a 60 series filler rod --the 70's 80's etc. are difficult to reblue.     leadball
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 18th, 2006 at 7:41pm
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TIG welding with mild steel rod is best, and should come out fine when cased. Coat hanger works pretty good as a filler rod.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 18th, 2006 at 8:17pm
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my question would be to make sure that the alloys of the parts to be welded to the original lever will be compatable as well.  I have seen several levers that have had levers modified that just did not turn out well.
 
One of the cutest reworkings of a Ruger#3 I've seen, (converted to 22rf, high quality German DST installed and a Laudensack (?) scroll type lever fabricated) suffers from alloy incompatability.  The original part of the Ruger lever is a nice deep blue,  the added schutzen part is a decidedly purplish blue that is a jarring detraction for the overall elegant look and high quality workmanship of the piece.

I don't know of color casing would hide it or not,  I suspect that if it were mine it'd be heading for Metalife.
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 12:28am
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QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Oct 18th, 2006 at 8:17pm:
 The original part of the Ruger lever is a nice deep blue,  the added schutzen part is a decidedly purplish blue that is a jarring detraction for the overall elegant look and high quality workmanship of the piece.



The added part was almost certainly cast. Many cast parts will turn purple or red when hot-blued, & there's sometimes no cure except a different finish. Try rust (old-fashioned rust-&-rub) blue or Oxpho-Blue. Brownell's Gunsmith Kinks books offer several possible solutions for this problem.
HTH, good luck, Joe
  
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Re: Welding a highwall lever
Reply #5 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 11:40am
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JD,  t'wazn't mine. Somewhere or other I have some snaps I took of it,  if I can find'em and figure out how, I'll post one.  Also it was owner self-stocked, excellent workmanship, but he likes light wood and stocked it in some figured sycamore (also known as lacewood) from his own family homestead.  He's very pleased and proud of it.  I personally really like the metal work and fitting--except for the color problem on the lever, otherwise it's one of the nicest jobs I've seen on a #3.  i'd be proud to own it, purple lever, blonde stock and all.
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Reply #6 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 9:44pm
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Old-Win wrote on Oct 18th, 2006 at 10:15am:
When welding a highwall lever that is going to be color case hardened, what rod or material is used so that it will color case uniformly?  Is there a specific low carbon rod that one should use?  Would TIG welding be the best way to go? Thanks, Old-Win

There is only one way to weld parts on a hi-wall or lo-wall and that's with a Dillon torch.  I've described the Dillon in a recent post and why to use it.  If you want me to describe it again and tell you why just ask.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 10:08pm
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Old+timer.  FYI, This thread ended in 2006, 19 years ago.  I’d bet the project is long been completed.   But then your information may still be helpful for some folks.   
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Re: Welding a highwall lever
Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 10:30pm
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Well I don't even remember making this post 19 years ago and I must have ended up buying a lever from Cody Ballard in Wyoming. Funny thing is I have the same situation laying on my bench right now where I want to graft a Helm Style casting to an original coil spring lever. I would love to hear what a Dillon torch is and how they work even though I don't know where I would send it to get it done.
  
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