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Reply #30 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 2:06pm
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frnkeore, when shooting that small a volume of Unique in a 45-70 case, did you go through any routine after loading the case in the rifle to place the powder in a known position in the case before firing? What primer did you use? Thanks.
  
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Reply #31 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 2:46am
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Well, the truth is, that I shot the Unique, breech seated. I did nothing special, just put the case in the chamber.

I used both F150 & F210 primers. The F150's gave 19 fps ES & 6.9 SD. The F210's, 20 ES & 6 SD. The F150's were more accurate by .18 @ 100 yds. .84 vs 1.02. F150 971 fps, F210 965 fps averages.

The bullet was NEI 409 gr spitzer bullet, cast in range scrap. I used that because 400+gr a shot, uses up lead, pretty fast.
  

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Reply #32 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 6:13am
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I shoot 10 to 12 grs Of Unique in all my 45-70 rifles with a Lyman #457124, 385 gr RN cast from range scrap. Light crimp if any, and lately with whatever primer I have on hand. 
They shoot high with standard trapdoor sights, but then, I believe all bullet weights will.

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Reply #33 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 6:47pm
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Thank y'all for the info.
  
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Reply #34 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 8:20pm
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All my trapdoors had higher front sights. Set elevation with a veiner caliper & notebook recording decimal inches to distance.

I didn’t do anything special to my light load trapdoor loading either. I did and still do mount rifles the same way every shot. Rested on a bag on the ranges rail in front, muzzle facing down at about 45 degrees . Put the buttplate in my shoulder raise the gun to level and make the shot. I believe it’s more consistent than filler wads. This for offhand, something similar works for bench don’t think I ever shot mine from the bench, prone from X sticks for longer distances .  Homemade prone muzzle down rest raised to the X stick position.   

Down  to level not only distributes the powder constantly, keeps the muzzle pointed below the clubs back berm. 45/70 bullet fired over the berm will will travel a very long way.

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Re: Trapdoor Action
Reply #35 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 4:33pm
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I've had good luck with Unique and TrailBoss with .457 round balls. I'm not near my notes now but I remember the charge being 10 grains. This is a good grouse, and rabbit load.
  

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