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Hepburn in 38-55
Oct 1st, 2024 at 1:59pm
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It's been a very long time since I've been on this forum. Hope all are doing well. I've been on a 12 step program to sell off a bunch of guns and not buy any more. But then a real nice Hepburn in my favorite caliber, 38-55, popped up on the internet. I couldn't resist! A reasonable price was settled on and I bought it. When it arrived it was WAY better condition than the pictures revealed. But upon inspection, the first inch of the muzzle had no rifling and a .379 bullet would drop down until it hit good rifling. The bore looked great with a scope and it slugged beautifully. The front sight dovetail was a horror show. Way too large and crooked! I cut the offending section of the barrel off, recrowned it and cut a new dovetail on the milling machine. I finally had time to get the range and see what it could do. Before I went to the range, I had to drill and tap another hole in the tang as the tang sight I wanted to use had closer hole spacing.  Interesting to note that whomever did the first tang mounting used  8-32 screws which aren't  gunsmith threads. I used the same tap to keep everything the same. I had to make two bolts to attach a much better tang sight that I had on hand. And I made a plug for the extra hole. The tang sight it was wearing was mid range and offered no windage adjustment. This replaced sight will easily allow out to 500 - 600 yds. Once this was done I headed to the range with my GoTo 38-55 cartridges. 8g of Unique with a piece of toilet paper to hold the powder against the primer and a LEE cast 250g lead bullet...lubed with whatever I had in the lube-sizer. This load shoots amazingly well through six 38-55 rifles I have. I simply looked through the bore at a target at 100 yds and moved the sight to be SOMEWHERE on the paper. Blew my mind that with a center hold, the first bullet impacted about an inch above the bullseye! No windage adjustment! With a 6-Oclock hold the next 4 rounds went into an amazing tight group. Four shots with three holes! No windage adjustment! Moving the rear sight up two clicks and I was spot on at 200yds....and three more clicks up and the gong at 300 yards was singing! Past that and I would need a spotter on a scope to see the hits as that little 250g bullet at around 1200FPS doesn't make enough noise to hear the hits. I need to go buy a lottery ticket. Things almost never go this easy with a new to me rifle. Not bad for a rifle that is over 140 years old! (BTW, serial number 8338....)
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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #1 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 2:07pm
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Lots of pictures of the 38-55 Hepburn here.... (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 5:54pm
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Roy, very nice looking Hepburn.  They are a unique rifle!
  

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #3 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 6:20pm
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RoyB has your Hepburn buttstock been replaced? Never seen one like that, or without checkering.
  

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #4 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 6:29pm
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marlinguy wrote on Oct 1st, 2024 at 6:20pm:
RoyB has your Hepburn buttstock been replaced? Never seen one like that, or without checkering.

Agreed, it is unique. But it is mentioned in Tom's book on the Hepburns. I believe it might be a "hunting" version. I have no idea if the wood is original. A lot of changes can happen in 140+ years!
  

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #5 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm
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RoyB wrote on Oct 1st, 2024 at 6:29pm:
marlinguy wrote on Oct 1st, 2024 at 6:20pm:
RoyB has your Hepburn buttstock been replaced? Never seen one like that, or without checkering.

Agreed, it is unique. But it is mentioned in Tom's book on the Hepburns. I believe it might be a "hunting" version. I have no idea if the wood is original. A lot of changes can happen in 140+ years!


I have 6 Hepburns and all have serial numbers under the buttplate, and also stamped on the wood too. If it's original the serial numbers will be in the barrel channel on forearm, and also under the tangs when removed.
  

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #6 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 8:26pm
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Thank You! I'll check that out.
  

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #7 - Oct 4th, 2024 at 11:33am
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This post got my attention with the mention of .38-55. I have a Rolling Block in that chambering, with a 30” full octagon Green Mountain 1:12 barrel. Have not yet shot BP in it. I must like .38-55 because I’m ordering a CPA Stevens 44 ½, in .38-55, also a 30” #4 barrel with 1:12 twist. My bullet for both is an NOE 376-329 weighing about 330-grains. And I plan to try breech seating for the first time with the CPA. Might have to consider a new mold.

Sometime back I saw a thread here by Glenn Ring, 22 Sept. 2020, that discussed a .38-55 being used for rifle silhouette. A good friend had a CSA Model 74 chambered in .38-55. He did not use BP in it but instead he used Unique. When he hit the 500-meter ram it fell over. Not sure what bullet he used. When he ordered the rifle I ordered one also. Mine is chambered in 40 cal. 2 ½ aka 40-70 Sharps Straight. I’ve never used smokeless in it. The 30” barrel is a 1:16 Badger. Bullet is a Paul Jones 416-grains.

It might be me and my scant knowledge of old single shots, but the profile of the receiver area of the Hepburn shown here, kind of reminds me of the Stevens. But the overall rifle is a nice looking specimen.

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Re: Hepburn in 38-55
Reply #8 - Oct 4th, 2024 at 11:48am
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It really is a great cartridge. I have a 44 1/2 with a number of barrels, a 219 zipper, a 3030, and a 3855. It’s an original 44 1/2 that was done over by Shuttleworth. it’s a shooter. I just sold a good friend of mine a C sharps model 75 and 3855. He just had to have it and I have plenty of 3855 firearms. All of them are great shooters. Those green mountain barrels that I used on the Ballard is an amazingly accurate Rifle.
  

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