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Re: New Ballard Wood
Reply #15 - May 27th, 2024 at 7:31pm
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Too late now, but you could have removed maybe 1/8" off the bottom of the pistol grip and left it a pistol grip on a straight grip frame. 
I vote to buy a piece of nice walnut and build a forearm to match that buttstock. Then your Ballard will not just shoot well, but look good doing it too!
  

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Reply #16 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:00pm
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It was really a straight buttstock for a PG action.  The stock had no PG.  all I did was remove about 1/2” at the action and taper it.   Maybe Wes will feel sorry for me and bring a nice piece of forend wood to Spokane for me. Here is the stock before I shaped it
  

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Reply #17 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:45pm
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That looks like what someone would have done to fit a pistol grip frame with a straight grip stock like Marlin did for the #6 Schuetzen, and first year #6 1/2 Rigbys that were both pistol gripped actions with straight grip stocks.

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Reply #18 - May 28th, 2024 at 11:40am
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Maybe a matching forearm will make it pass the snarky Chinese lady test. 

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Reply #19 - May 28th, 2024 at 12:38pm
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For we Eastern rabble who won't be there to see it, may we not get an uncensored view of its new "form follows function" fore end? Is it rainbow colored 3D printed? (If so I would hide it too.)
  
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Reply #20 - May 28th, 2024 at 1:22pm
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Here is the original version.  Don't tell Wes Turner I posted it uncensored.  The butt plate spacer has been blackened.

  

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Re: New Ballard Wood
Reply #21 - May 28th, 2024 at 2:22pm
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Amigo Jack,

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it seems that you've got plenty of wood in that buttstock to play with, if it was mine...I'd make a few aesthetic adjustments to make it a little prettier, but I think the big forend is just fine. Ultimately, the proof of the pudding is in the shooting, if your rifle will keep up with the rimfire wonks, who cares what it looks like!
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Reply #22 - May 28th, 2024 at 2:43pm
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Thanks Bob,

The proof will be in the groups!  I have just started looking to repair the butt stock that came with it and it may just end up as a display piece.  It has a couple of what I think are pewter inserts that match one on the forend, but there are bad cracks both vertical and horizontal that need repair and a large chunk missing.  I think there was considerable flexing when I was shooting it the last few times.  I do have this stock I could fit to it, but not my idea of a bench one.
  

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Reply #23 - May 31st, 2024 at 1:27pm
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Hey Jack, how is the accuracy increase going? Do any testing yet?
  

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Reply #24 - May 31st, 2024 at 2:13pm
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I shot it yesterday.  You were right about the forend.  The original shot as well as the flat bottom one.  The butt stock helped even though there was a Chinese lady yelling in my ear the whole time.  It did have the odd flyer though.  I think I will bring the Low Wall to Tommy’s.  I am going to  possibly put a set trigger in it.   
I will do some carving on the Ballard stock to set the comb back like it should be. No cracks like the one that came with it
  

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Reply #25 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 5:58am
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I'll assume you're resting it on the barrel half way between the muzzle and forestock?   

The butt stock is better because its higher? CPA offers a high stock for Ballards. They look a lot better that the one you have now and can have any grade wood you want.

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Reply #26 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 9:06am
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I am using the butt stock because it is not cracked and cost $35.  I haven’t tried testing it that far out.   
  

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Re: New Ballard Wood
Reply #27 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 11:08am
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Some of my Ballards have cracked stocks. Very common. They don't effect accuracy.   
Yes, rest the barrel on on your rest. Might eliminate that pesky flier. 

What model was that Ballard originally? Ballards with double set triggers need good original style stocks. What barrel is it? Original? Whos? What size groups have you been getting at 100 yards? With good ammo.
  

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Reply #28 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 11:22am
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Before I began repairs on the stock you could see the 2 8” long cracks open up at the action by almost 1/16” just from resting it on the rear bag. There is a pewter bow tie shaped insert on top of the wrist that was loose. When I removed it it revealed a vertical split as well.  I epoxied that in place.  No markings on the relined barrel and the cast frame # does not match the innards.  The frame has the 2 little holes like a Pacific.  Groups with Tenex are close to 1”  without the single flyer  opening up the group to 1.5”. 
The Stevens Pope low wall put 7 shots into .6” with the same ammo so it is coming to Tommy’s 

  

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Re: New Ballard Wood
Reply #29 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:34pm
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Yeah, that sounds perty bad alright. Duck tape snap ties and wire? 

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