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Touch hole liner?
May 22nd, 2024 at 3:25am
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I am in need of a new touch hole liner for my 54 caliber rifle. I believe it to be a 5/16x24 thread. The slot in the head is worn and getting hard to get out. I have seen an advertisement for some using an Allen wrench. Any thoughts?
  

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Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2024 at 4:39am
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Check with Dixie Gun Works or maybe Track of the Wolf, or Log Cabin Shop…
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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2024 at 5:33am
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Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2024 at 7:12am
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A touch hole liner should never be removed unless it's worn out and needs replaced. Depending on how hot the load is that could be any where from 3000 to 10000 shots.
  

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Reply #4 - May 22nd, 2024 at 8:22am
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Redrighthand wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 7:12am:
A touch hole liner should never be removed unless it's worn out and needs replaced. Depending on how hot the load is that could be any where from 3000 to 10000 shots.


Why not?
  

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Reply #5 - May 22nd, 2024 at 11:41am
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I have no idea whether this is the case or not, but a builder of fine flintlocks once mentioned in passing that removing the touch hole liner frequently could result in wear of the threads, and that could lead to flame cutting following into the threads.

True? No idea. But I will say that I have seen both liners and nipples being ejected from their seat. Not often, but it only takes a time or two to leave a lasting impression!  Grin

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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2024 at 8:50am
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I don't think that it is a great concern if you maintain your wits and don't cross-thread, just needs to be fully reinserted.

If you get distracted and forget to charge your rifle before seating the ball/bullet removing the touch hole liner/nipple allows you to get some powder in there to blow the ball/bullet out. I was taught that some 50 years ago but no one said "never remove it...." Smiley
  

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Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2024 at 11:02am
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I have been building custom flintlock muzzleloaders fulltime for a living since 1996. Hobbyist builder clear back to 1980. I have made nearly 400 guns. I NEVER put in a touch hole liner that has any way to remove it unless you use an easy out.
You'll wear out the threads screwing it in and out so I don't give my customers the option.  I can't imagine any reason to ever take it out unless the hole gets big and you lose accuracy.

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Reply #8 - May 23rd, 2024 at 7:15pm
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And mostly because o said so! Grin
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 6:08am
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I just received two, new flash hole liners. The gold colored one is installed and removed with an Allen wrench. Anyone used one of these? I am a little concerned it has no "head" to seat against the barrel like the steel one
  

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Reply #10 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 8:58pm
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I've built quite a lot of flinters over the last sixty years and there are some advantages to the allen key type, such as being easier to pull out should you need to, like a dry balled rifle or a badly worn liner. The thing wrong with them is they are not traditional and 
flintlock purists may shun you. I have seen plenty of the other type ( traditional ) with a buggered up slot caused by screwdriver slipping trying to remove a worn out liner.
Either way, no big deal.
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