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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1864 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Another rabbit hole... Apr 17^th, 2024 at 8:53pm	Print Post
	I recently purchased a Borchardt "kit" from a friend that Rodney Storie did many years ago. Castings are of good quality with a bit of welding to correct a couple flaws. It is partially machined and already threaded for the barrel which is good. My problem is I need a good set of working drawings as I don't have access to an original. Anyone know of a source? JMH


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17209 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #1 - Apr 18^th, 2024 at 10:30am	Print Post
	I believe the ASSRA archives might have drawings for some old single shots. Might check there to see if they have what you want?

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1923 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #2 - Apr 18^th, 2024 at 12:33pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Apr 18^th, 2024 at 10:30am: I believe the ASSRA archives might have drawings for some old single shots. Might check there to see if they have what you want? They do have the Borchardt.

	Robert Warren
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idjeffp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 351 Location: Boise, ID Joined: Nov 11^th, 2017	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #3 - Apr 18^th, 2024 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	I took my prints and scaled them up and printed on 11x17" paper. Easier to read... Got my Borchardt .50-90 SS rebarrel ready to test fire now. Making some new extractors and fitting one was fun JP


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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1096 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2024 at 6:17pm	Print Post
	jhm, I finally found where I'd stashed my big prints from Moeller but they are big - 30" by 40" or thereabouts. I could probably take pics of individual parts that you might need and send them along or post them here... Regards, Joe


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guilty gil Participating Member Offline Posts: 43 Location: Livingston mt. Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2024 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	I vote print them here for all of us.thanks!


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fallingblock ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 638 Location: Wisconsin Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #6 - Apr 20^th, 2024 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	The prints are $15.00 post paid from the Archives. The sale of the prints helps keep the Archives open. Cheers, Laurie ASSRA Archivist.

	Cheers, Laurie ASSRA Secretary & Archivist
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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1096 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #7 - Apr 20^th, 2024 at 11:37pm	Print Post
	Here's some pictures of the Borchardt action cutaway that I found helpful when I was working on my kit. I was also loaned an action by our Schützenmeister and could take measurements from it as well - a huge help. Thanks Eric! Regards, Joe P.S. Thanks for the reminder Laurie. $15 dollars is well spent and supports the organisation.


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idjeffp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 351 Location: Boise, ID Joined: Nov 11^th, 2017	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #8 - Apr 21^st, 2024 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	Thanks for sharing that JFeldman... reminded me that I should probably add a radius to the upper end of the extractor that meshes with the cocking plate on that right-hand side. Saving these picts off for reference... Where does this Borchardt cutaway reside these days? Is it at the Cody Museum by chance? Cheers, Jeff Pfeifer
	« Last Edit: Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 4:35pm by idjeffp »

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1864 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #9 - Apr 21^st, 2024 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Pictures are worth a thousand words... Thank you very much. This will be a great help. JMH


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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1096 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #10 - Apr 21^st, 2024 at 8:06pm	Print Post
	Jeff, I have no idea where it resides these days. I'm not positive but I think it was in an auction several years ago. Regards, Joe


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1864 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #11 - Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Another question and that is the upper tang is supposed to be held on with a screw? My action someone has welded the tang with the rear tang sight mount on it. It was not done very well but I can machine it out and make one more suited. Could someone possibly post a photo of the screwed on tang action? Thanks... JMH


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2185 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #12 - Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	Borchardt tang and sight
	« Last Edit: May 20^th, 2024 at 12:49am by Schutzenbob »

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1864 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #13 - Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 11:34pm	Print Post
	Thank you Mr. Schutzenbob! As stated whoever installed and welded the present one didn't do a very good job so I am going to remove it and slightly clean up the width and make one that will be the screw on type. Thanks again... JMH


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1864 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Another rabbit hole... Reply #14 - May 19^th, 2024 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	Using everything I have at hand (drawings and everyone's help here) I have machined a new block well actually two as I lost the first one from a miscalculated dim. I know it is a lot to ask but could someone send me a picture of the bottom portion of the breech block. The area I am interested in is the cut out section sans lever and link for the sear and the attachment point of the lever link. The machined cuts in the casting I tried to replicate but they had been slightly modified. As stated it is a lot to ask but would put my mind at ease. These blocks aren't the easiest to machine from a blank and I just want to make sure it is correct. The above cut away was priceless but doesn't show the areas I want to see. Thanks everyone! JMH


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