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8,15x46R with N130 or N135?
Apr 10th, 2024 at 7:41am
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I am trying to get a load going in my 8x48R Sauer using what powder I have currently (N130/N140). I contacted Vihtavouri and was told 1. they don't have a firearm in the caliber and 2. they don't have any brass.

I have found loading data for N135 but I don't have any and it is over $120 for a kilo. I also have no other use for N135....

So I am thinking I might extrapolate 8,15x46R data for N130 if there is any. I do have RWS 8,15x46R cases and can use those to cross-reference the the capacity with the 8x48R.

Am I approaching this wrong?

Anyone have data for N130 in the 8,15x46R?
  

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Re: 8,15x46R with N130 or N135?
Reply #1 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 9:17am
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SchwartzStock wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 7:41am:
I am trying to get a load going in my 8x48R Sauer using what powder I have currently (N130/N140). I contacted Vihtavouri and was told 1. they don't have a firearm in the caliber and 2. they don't have any brass.

I have found loading data for N135 but I don't have any and it is over $120 for a kilo. I also have no other use for N135....

So I am thinking I might extrapolate 8,15x46R data for N130 if there is any. I do have RWS 8,15x46R cases and can use those to cross-reference the the capacity with the 8x48R.

Am I approaching this wrong?

Anyone have data for N130 in the 8,15x46R?

The approach is sound, if case capacity isn’t similar, but there might be some better options.

Looking at the cartridge drawing, Case capacity and cartridge size is between 32-35 Maynard and plain old 32-40. Not sure if that help with actual data for your powder choice.

Better news is a quick check of the cartridges listed in Quickload includes the 8x48r Sauer. 
So with bullet weight and dimensions, case capacity and reasonably close assembled cartridge length getting a starting load is pretty easy.

The velocity you would like to be at and pressure limit if it’s a weak action is very helpful.

I would be happy to run some numbers tonight, or maybe others that might be closer to the computer today could also help.

Here’s a quick try with a .317 diameter 183 grain bullet.
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Re: 8,15x46R with N130 or N135?
Reply #2 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 9:44am
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I have used VV N130 in a 32-40 fixed with Lyman 323471 GC, did good to 500M

For me it was like Reloder 7, a poster on the CBA list is Spindrift, he uses a lot of VV powder,  VV N120 looks like it would work for BS, not available here
  
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Re: 8,15x46R with N130 or N135?
Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 11:35am
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The bullets I have are 196 and 165 Gr. I have no idea who produced them but both have a diameter of 0.316

I compared the 8,15x46R case to the 8x48R and there is little difference, the base of the 8,15 RWS case is 0.419 and the Quality Cart case is 0.416. The cases a friend made for me from 9,3x72R are 0.425 at the base. The modified cases chamber easily in the rifle, guess tolerances were not that that tight in the 1910-20 era.

The cartridge on the left is 8,15x46R for comparison to the Sauer.
  

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Re: 8,15x46R with N130 or N135?
Reply #4 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 7:09am
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Looks like there is a capacity water weight difference of 1.8 grs with the 8,15x46R holding more...
  

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Re: 8,15x46R with N130 or N135?
Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:45pm
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Please let me know what charges you end up using of N130. I am planning on using N110 and N120 in 8.15x46R so I’d be curious to compare results.
  
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