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Melting temp for alox?
Mar 19th, 2024 at 2:13pm
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I'm trying to get some old lube off a bunch of cast bullets.  They were lubed with Javelina.   I tried standing them up on newspaper in an oven at 200 degrees and after about 30 minutes the lube was still solid.

Bees wax melts at around 140F.  What temp does alox melt at?
  
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Re: Melting temp for alox?
Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2024 at 2:39pm
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Boil them and then let the water go cold. Wax will solidify and float.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2024 at 8:55pm
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SBoomer is onto it.
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 19th, 2024 at 9:07pm
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Yep, that's the solution. 

Thank you SO much.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 1:44am
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keep me posted if it worked. Alox 2138 and Beeswax(I'm assuming you have the old JAVELINA) doesn't come off real easy.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 2:08am
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It doesn't come off easily, especially when it's ancient and dried out.

The boiling does work.  I discovered that it works a bit better if you stand the bullets up in the pan.  Make sure you have plenty of water in the pan.  I'm cleaning 160gr .321 bullets, 50 at a time in a 2 qt sauce pan and I put 2" of water over the noses.

And when Boomer says let the water get cold, he means completely cold.  Skim off some of the wax and then pick the bullets out of the water rather than trying to drain 
off the water.

Drained off the water comes out first the the wax after, and for some reason even cold the wax still has the capacity to cling to the bullets.

As usual, YMMV
  
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Re: Melting temp for alox?
Reply #6 - Mar 25th, 2024 at 11:22pm
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I’m curious. Once the water procedure is done, is the old lube in any of at retrievable or reuseable? Iv never tried this or had a reason to think about it.
  

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Re: Melting temp for alox?
Reply #7 - Mar 25th, 2024 at 11:44pm
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Last fall I cleaned 20 yr old lube form several hundred bullets. I would boil them first and pour them into a strainer followed by more boiling water.  A few lots came clean that way, but most left a gooey mess on the bullets. I eventually laid them out on paper towels and hit them with a hot heat gun which removed the wax leaving a black tar in the grooves.  After several experiments, I found cleaning in gasoline followed by acetone was the best method.  I was hoping to sell most of them but since my local scrap yard went out of business I will probably just melt them now since they are calibers that I don't use, I would have been better off just melting the lead (sorted by alloy) and skimmed off the crud.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 1:09am
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I would not try to use the lube that boils off the bullets for anything but flux.   

After all, if the lube was good in the first place, why remove it?
  
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Re: Melting temp for alox?
Reply #9 - Mar 26th, 2024 at 12:46pm
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A few batches of the bullets I got were lubed 12+ years ago with Javelina and the lube was still nice and sticky.  I am shooting those, mostly 25 cal.  The ones with Emmerts lube had the tar like residue.  Even if you wanted to reuse the lube, it would take hundreds of bullets to produce a 1/4 cup.
  

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