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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1061 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #15 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 10:18am	Print Post
	I hear Ya calledflyer! Loud and clear! Talent abounds among those on this forum! Regards, Joe


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2493 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #16 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 11:38am	Print Post
	So true Joe. I have the tools including a nice South Bend lathe and little skill and even less patience. I even tried staying in a Holiday Inn Express but that didn’t help. Jack

	ASSRA # 11318 Plethora? You say I have a plethora?.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #17 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 9:11am	Print Post
	Here's pictures of the front and rear triggers on our latest close couple design. I used a sharpie and inked the card so the actual trigger would show. The real work is just getting ready to happen, liberating the triggers from the "card" and then getting them to fit and function. We've modified them considerably from the Winchester design they started as. I'll share more pics as they go together. Nivins.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #18 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 10:01am	Print Post
	What's the process to separate the triggers from the rest of the steel? Do you just flip it over and mill down to the parting surface?

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #19 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 11:01am	Print Post
	Vall, I have a couple of steps to machine on the reverse of the rear trigger, for that I can flip it over and machine a little bit, but to liberate them from the rest of the card, I use a hack saw and cut them out. Then I toe clamp them to another fixture and machine the reverse in steps - trying to machine them from the rest of the material is a wreck waiting to happen - and it does.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2203 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #20 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	Greg, Thank you. Good idea. Have been through that wreck. Chuck


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #21 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	Thanks Greg! Helps me visualize what you're doing, even if I'll never do it myself.

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gwahir Senior Forum Member Offline Ve gets too soon olt und too late shmart. Posts: 397 Location: montana Joined: Dec 31^st, 2005	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #22 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Is this CNC work? Intimating to those who attempt this freehand!


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #23 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	These were done on the CNC. I've struggled through a few of them freehand, cutting to a scribed line, a couple using a rotary table, but by far, this program works the best. A few have a machine like this in their hobby shop... A little something about this CNC, I bought it with the intent to use it for my business but 90% or more of my work it won't do, economically anyway, large Cincinatti's, G&L's and Lucas manual mills dwarf this CNC capabilities so I've resigned the use of this for anything but plastic, aluminum and small gun work To buy a CNC that has the capabilities approaches high six figures so I wasn't interested. I sprung for this mill before I formed a corp and a personal loan bought it so it's not tied to the business.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 495 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #24 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	It really makes me wonder how Ballard made LOTS of parts in production 150 years ago! They knew something then too!


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GunBum Full Member Offline Posts: 121 Location: SW Missouri Joined: Oct 30^th, 2021	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #25 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 9:42pm	Print Post
	150 years ago they used jigs to hold stuff and form cutters to make the shapes.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #26 - May 9^th, 2024 at 10:02am	Print Post
	Life seems to be speeding up and time slips by even faster when the gaps are filled with things one enjoys. Using this as an excuse, my posts have suffered to the point they've diminished. I have still been "making" a few things, actually a lot of things. Here's pics of one of the latest. We call it version 4 of the compact close couple triggers but looking back through the mess and briefly at this post, it may be version 5 or 6 but I'm not really counting. My end goal was to develop a set of triggers that are simple, low enough profile to fit a Hepburn or a Ballard and my son may have added the right twist that makes this happen. The trigger sear was inverted keeping it below the pivot pins. The knock-off (rear trigger) operates within an area about an eighth inch above the pins, and two simple coil springs activate the system. In my test pieces no adjusting screws have been added yet and the trigger breaks crisp at 7 or 8 oz. with no pre- and very minute over-travel. The downfall of the system and it is by design, the only way it fires is if the trigger is set.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #27 - May 9^th, 2024 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	Here's an experiment... showing the triggers in motion. Maybe...

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #28 - yesterday at 9:15am	Print Post
	Installed and functioning in one of my Ballards builds.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 445 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Special Ballard Parts Reply #29 - yesterday at 9:59am	Print Post
	Amazing work and talent!

	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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