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Any large lead melting pot designs?
Jan 1st, 2024 at 7:52pm
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I have tons (literally) of the 2" X 4" X 8" pure lead blocks that I would like to melt and alloy in batches then cast smaller ingots for 20 pound melters for casting. ANyone have DIY designs or concepts?
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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 8:20pm
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Not on a pot but for ingots I found two commercial muffin tins that are for the large Sams size muffins. Each pan does 24. They are perfect for my 20lb pots.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:00pm
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Personally, I render down my COWW, and other lead in
a Large stainless steel mixing bowl to which I added a bail, like a bucket. It will hold 60 pounds of lead, or lead alloy. 

I use a propane turkey fryer for the heat which would be able to melt larger pot of lead than my mixing bowl.

Other's have used a cast iron dutch oven for larger batches of lead.
I, like Bob, use muffin tins to cast my "ingots"
They cost almost nothing at rummage sales.
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Reply #3 - Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:02pm
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I use a cast iron Dutch oven with the legs ground off on a propane burner stand.  Mine only holds about 40 lbs or so but they make them bigger. 

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Reply #4 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 1:44am
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Some guys report having sawn a propane tank in two.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 6:00am
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A big flat bottom Chinese kettle/aka dutch oven. A Turkey fryer stand with additional weldeld leg braces and 4-5 muffin tins get it done. Just did 150 lbs. worth of alloy melt
  
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I built one that holds 900 lbs.
Will get in touch later.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 7:33am
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I have a big melter such as others have described, but for "lead bricks" such as you describe, I find that a coarse blade on the table saw works easiest -- Just saw them in half lengthwise and stick 'em in the regular pot.

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Reply #8 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 9:17am
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I have found that the log splitter works ok for breaking up bricks.

The turkey fryer looks good if I use a large ladle. Wondering if there are any direct pouring or bottom drain DYIs.

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Reply #9 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 9:51am
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I cut a 25 lb. propane tank in half. Take out the valve, fill with soapy water a time or 2. Then a cut-off wheel.
Weld 4 pipe legs on the sides.
Made my own burner w/ black pipe fittings.
Made it a bottom pour by making a "needle and seat" affair with a long handle.
Muffin tins under. Muffins are ~ 2 lbs ea.
Crude, but it works.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 1:48pm
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I use a Dutch oven and a crawfish boiler/Turkey fryer heater.

I melt ~60-65 lb. at a time, adding the necessary amount of tin when the lead is melted.  I generally do 4 batches at one sitting, and use Lyman/Saeco ingot moulds.  I mix the batches and store them in 50 cal ammo cans-each can will store ~120 lb of alloy carefully packed.
  
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Reply #11 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 1:52pm
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I've used a 6 qt cast iron Dutch Oven on propane turkey fryer base for years to melt 50# alloyed metal at a time and pour into RCBS ingot molds to remelt in my Lyman 20# electric pot in house. Works great if not tipped over.
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Reply #12 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 6:43pm
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I went to the Goodwill and bought a cheap cast iron pot, and use a propane burner to melt down large batches of scrap lead into smaller ingots.
I have a mold made from angle iron to make triangle ingots, and also a muffin pan that makes 2 lb. ingots.
  

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Reply #13 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 7:15pm
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Since I have several retired 20lb propane tanks and a 400lb full tank I no longer use (fuel source) an idea is forming. Just need to decide if a bottom pour is worth the added effort over a large ladle.

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Reply #14 - Jan 2nd, 2024 at 7:56pm
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I cut a stainless pony keg (7-1/2gal) in about half.
Fits very well over the turkey fryer.  I then use the turkey fryer AND a weed burner to go from cold scrap to molten.   Did very well for both 300 and 400 lb batches.
  

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Reply #15 - Jan 3rd, 2024 at 12:17am
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For a while I used the 25 lb. propane tank with the top cut off on top of a burner.
Then switched to a 40lb. tank cut lengthways on a frame so it sat over 1 or 2 turkey burners. Excellent!
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 3rd, 2024 at 10:17am
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Made 20 years ago. 6" well casing ,old Coleman one burner camp stove. Dutch oven on top,works great!
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 3rd, 2024 at 10:54am
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I have a linotype melting unit from a print shop.  LP fired, 500# capacity with a drain gate valve.  Last use was melting wheelweights at a junkyard.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 4th, 2024 at 2:32pm
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A propane weed burner with the flame hitting the lead in the pot will cut your melt time by 60 to 80 percent over just using the turkey burner.
  

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I second the weed burner idea.  I have a non-urkey fryer rated burner and a large cast iron dutch oven with the feet ground off.  I have been getting used roof flashing with some tar left on it for years until they closed last year, so melting is a bit messy.  The burner stand keeps it hot while the weed burner makes things melt faster and sets the tar on fire.  I only have about 100 lbs of the flashing left and will need to find a new source eventually.   

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That looks way to easy.
  
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bpjack wrote on Jan 4th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
I second the weed burner idea.  I have a non-urkey fryer rated burner and a large cast iron dutch oven with the feet ground off.  I have been getting used roof flashing with some tar left on it for years until they closed last year, so melting is a bit messy.  The burner stand keeps it hot while the weed burner makes things melt faster and sets the tar on fire.  I only have about 100 lbs of the flashing left and will need to find a new source eventually.  

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These photos of pots and burners inside shops, in what looks like narrow quarters, always gives me the Willies because I know with complete certainty I would have an easy time of creating a disaster!  Shocked

Please tell me it is just posed for pictures atop that piece of carpet!
  
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Reply #22 - Jan 4th, 2024 at 8:46pm
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The only time I ever use that “inside” the shop is when I any creating a lead tin alloy with clean lead.  I will mix 30 lbs of lead with 1.5 lbs of tin. I do that just inside the doorway on the concrete with a fan blowing out the door.  If I am doing lead cleaning, I have it set up in a dog kennel with a pitched tarp roof. The burner sits on a 4x4 sheet of cement board. 
I ladle into a couple of muffin tins until it is too shallow. Then I pick the pot up with a large visegrip and pour. 

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Reply #23 - Jan 4th, 2024 at 10:18pm
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I don’t use a Turkey fryer.  I prefer the fish fryer.  Grin

I do the same when cleaning up scrap lead.  A large Dutch oven on the fish fryer with the weed burner to speed things up.  I ladle the lead into a cast iron muffin tin after cleaning it up. I use sawdust from the shop and/or used candles to flux the lead.  My wife burns bunches of those little smelly candles, so I steal them occasionally to flux lead.
  
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Reply #24 - Jan 5th, 2024 at 9:22am
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Well I thought everybody smelled the aroma of lead a cooking.....
  

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Reply #25 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 7:31pm
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Arctic wrote on Jan 3rd, 2024 at 12:17am:
For a while I used the 25 lb. propane tank with the top cut off on top of a burner.
Then switched to a 40lb. tank cut lengthways on a frame so it sat over 1 or 2 turkey burners. Excellent!


I have heard about cast pots from overseas being of poor material and prone to cracking/breaking when hot

since then, I've never used a cast iron pot, of any make/model

steel pots only from now on.   
propane bottles cut off are my "GoTo"

I like Arctic's idea of cutting one long....   would make for a great open top, and a tube burner would work perfect on it.

I happen to have a couple 40lbers handy!

Hey Arctic.  have you shot that 500BPE yet?
  
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Nanuk, ..... of course, but have to confess it's been awhile. Was thinking of it a few days ago, but at -52 it's not going out this week!
  
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Arctic wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 11:21pm:
Nanuk, ..... of course, but have to confess it's been awhile. Was thinking of it a few days ago, but at -52 it's not going out this week!



Good to hear
the 9.3 has made a bit of noise also, but infrequently

life decided to have other plans, but things are looking up

I think I'm going to use your horizontal pot idea.   I have an "Ingot" to melt down for round balls and conicals.   over a tonne of it sitting in my yard.  just need to figure out how to take it down into handlable sizes

once I get that working, I have a couple moulds for the 9.3

Good to hear from you!
  
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Reply #28 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 5:45pm
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I use an old cast iron pot I was given. It's about the size of a crockpot and holds 100lbs easy. I hear it on a propane burner I got from Amazon for about $40. 

I only alloy about 100lbs at a time, and when I burn through that, the pot gets fired up again
  
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