doesn't that photo belong in 'hunting with single shot rifles'? That looks like it wasn't a wing shot, but, rather, a sluiced kill. Looks like fun either way, Mike. Carry on 

I can't recall seeing those grips on that model before, but now that I have, I call the effect "beautiful".

Bill Lawrence

I joined the club too Jack!
Just before Christmas a friend told me about two Model 1867 Remington Rolling Block pistols for sale at a local shop, and was sad because the shop would only sell them as a pair! I told him I'd gladly buy one if he got both, and he did the deal!

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The Model 1867 were all reworked Model 1865 Remingtons that began life chambered as .50 Navy rimfire. Just a year later the Navy asked Remington to convert all 6500 pistols to .50 centerfire, and the Navy began recalling all Model 1865's from service to be converted. They only returned 6358 pistols, and it took 6 years for the project to be completed.
As part of the conversion Remington added a new CF breech block, and a whole new lower tang and trigger that added a trigger guard the 1865 didn't have. They also shortened barrels from 8.5" to 7", and blued the actions over the original casehardened frames.
Both of these pair of pistols have minty bores, and mechanically perfect inside. They appear to have been just banged around a little from marks on the stock and forearm, but not fired much.
I'm building ammo from .50-70 cases shortened to .86" long, and fitted with a 300 gr. .512" bullet. Powder charges were originally 25 grs. of 2fg, so I'll experiment with something around there for loads.

That Smith is a thing of beauty!

Crown-C wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2024 at 10:29am:


As a long time S&W fan I love those old single shots! Very nice looking guns Richard!

Stupid question but are the Smiths SA only or DA also?

Harrington and Richardson made a similar single shot 22 pistol.

The S&W single shot pistols evolved from the old S&W Top Break revolvers, and the first variations still had the recoil shield the revolvers used. The single shots were made from 1893-1905, and offered in .22LR, .32 S&W, and .38 S&W. calibers. Barrels were 6", 8", and 10". The 1st and 2nd variations had only one difference and that was the recoil shield removed on 2nd variations. 3rd variations were given the name S&W Perfected, as they were the best of the 3 versions. S&W actually made a 4th model called the "Straight Line" which was a totally different design, looking more like a semiauto frame, and I've never really considered the Straight Line part of this series.
The .32 and .38 are extremely rare as most were .22RF at 862 mfg., and 229 in .32, and 169 in .38 calibers. Some were also ordered with match chambers in .22LR, so get a little premium too.
A rare option on the first variations was you could order a revolver barrel and cylinder as an option and have your gun be single shot or revolver! Never even seen a picture of one, and supposedly about 92 sets were sold.
Another rare variation were barrels built for these marked HM POPE. No idea how many of those Pope made, but like anything rare and Pope they'll get huge money.