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German martini breech seater pictures?
Apr 26th, 2023 at 4:41pm
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I have a German martini schuetzen rifle in the 8.15x46 caliber but I have no idea what a breech seater for one looks like. My rifle has a lug or knob on the left side of the receiver that I am fairly certain is for one to pivot on. 
Would someone be willing to post or send me pictures of ones they have so I have an idea of what to look for or to make? I’d certainly appreciate any help.
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Reply #1 - Apr 26th, 2023 at 6:47pm
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MerwinBray wrote on Apr 26th, 2023 at 4:41pm:
I have a German martini schuetzen rifle in the 8.15x46 caliber but I have no idea what a breech seater for one looks like. My rifle has a lug or knob on the left side of the receiver that I am fairly certain is for one to pivot on. 
Would someone be willing to post or send me pictures of ones they have so I have an idea of what to look for or to make? I’d certainly appreciate any help.
Jon


JON:
I have been shooting these for years, and have made extra-long pivot pins for the block, and use those as fulcrums to use with bullet seaters.  The knobs on the ends of the pins are for pulling the pins out when taking the rifle down -- I wouldn't use them for leverage points.
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Reply #2 - Apr 26th, 2023 at 7:07pm
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Chris,

That is good to know and appreciated! 

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Reply #3 - Apr 26th, 2023 at 8:53pm
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I use these breech seaters for some of my rifles. The one on the right is for the Aydt. It used to be using in my Martini type schuetzen rifle also.
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Reply #4 - Apr 26th, 2023 at 10:44pm
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I use a simple push seater for my Swiss 7.5x53(GP90)  Martini. The throat is giant and I can actually shoot. 321 Diameter 32-40 bullets in it.
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Reply #5 - Apr 26th, 2023 at 11:09pm
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Westerner,

I didn’t think of something as simple as a plugged case. 

What are those plugged with? It almost looks like lead?
  

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Reply #6 - Apr 27th, 2023 at 12:07am
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Wood dowel material. Seaters work good for soft tapered bullets at groove diameter.
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 28th, 2023 at 8:33pm
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On the other side of the pond the Germans use fixed ammo and do very well with it. They are using commercial swaged bullets that seem oversize, not the stop ring. I have a Buchel Ideal and tried breech seating with poor results, fixed ammo worked a whole lot better.
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 28th, 2023 at 8:44pm
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I have  a Franz Boeckle .41 Swiss that shoots well with fixed ammo as well.Its a medium action size a bit bigger than a cadet and more of a hunting rifle but a joy to shoot.Its not a target rifle but hangs groups under 2" at 100 yards often enough.
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Reply #9 - Apr 29th, 2023 at 12:35am
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Sweet Swiss!
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 29th, 2023 at 12:45am
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This is the rifle I’m working on this for. 
I really appreciate all of the help with this. 
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Reply #11 - Apr 29th, 2023 at 12:46am
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A closer pic
  

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Reply #12 - Apr 30th, 2023 at 12:13pm
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I believe it is a System Stahl action
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 30th, 2023 at 5:16pm
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Back in the old days if you owned a Stahl rifle they called you governor. They still get attention at a match.
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Re: German martini breech seater pictures?
Reply #14 - Apr 30th, 2023 at 5:55pm
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A photo of the proof marks under the forend might help date it.
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