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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #15 - Sep 4^th, 2022 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	According to Flayderman, the "small" pistols were .31 and .34 caliber, the "large" were .36, and the rifles in both .31 and .38 were made on a "Special Pistol Rifle" action. Assuming that Mr. Sharps actually wanted to make money from these somewhat unconventional guns, I'd guess that the rifle action was little different from the larger pistol action. In any case, assuming that you can't borrow and do not relish the outlay for an original rifle, I'd think it expedient and reasonable to scale a rifle action off of a larger pistol. Bill Lawrence


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #16 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 12:03pm	Print Post
	Bill, Before posting my question here, I think I had enough information to start on the frame drawings but really nothing on the internals. While I had some idea what the inside might look like, I was hoping someone would pop in here that had a gun or access to one and clarify things for me. Although, that hope is fading fast! The help here, so far, has moved me down this road a bit further though. Many probably think it’s crazy even starting down it! Bob

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3492 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #17 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	Thanks to all that answered my questions. I once thought I knew a lot about antique rifles. Ha! But, the fellows here always step up and supply info to whoever has a question to ask.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #18 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 8:32pm	Print Post
	Wish one more person would step in with a picture inside of this animal.

	Robert Warren
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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #19 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 10:18pm	Print Post
	I'd guess that at least one or two large public collections - NRA, Cody, Frazier, and the like - would have one of those rifles. If so, perhaps an associated conservator (like I was) could be enlisted to disassemble one and take photos. As an inducement, I'd offer photos of your elegant and authentic work to establish your bona fides, plus a suitable fee. Bill Lawrence


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #20 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	That’s a good thought Bill. First, I’ll give this a bit more time to see if something comes up. Bob

	Robert Warren
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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #21 - Sep 13^th, 2022 at 3:35pm	Print Post
	Looks like I may get at least external dimensions from an original. Found a gent that owns one and seem interested in the project. He’s a bit hesitant to disassemble it but says he may give it a go, we will see. Bob

	Robert Warren
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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #22 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 12:03pm	Print Post
	I now have internal pictures. It confirms my assumptions of it being very similar to a simple muzzleloader lock. Nothing really surprised me except the fly and how really, really small this gun is! If you look at the front of the trigger there is a screw pointing at the tumbler. The owner could not tell me if the end pushed against the tumbler, but I’m assuming it does, and is an adjustment for sear engagement. Bob
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1990 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #23 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	Bob, I'm hung up on the need for the fly, nothing indicates a set trigger - is the return spring on the trigger stiff enough it returns it to rest quick? If so then the trigger pull must be substantial. I'm missing something obviously. G

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #24 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	Congratulations, Bob! I knew you'd get at least some pictures somehow. Also, if the fly acts on anything, I'd think it would be the trigger. Bill Lawrence


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3492 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #25 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 6:38pm	Print Post
	so, he did 'step up' and help- like I said, you guys are great. Now, it's time to suggest that he put a little lubricant into that dry-looking ol' rifle to keep it for another century or so.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #26 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	calledflyer….by the time I got these pictures it was already back together. I felt very lucky to have gotten them. Had questions but it was to late, he did want to take it apart again. He has been very helpful and really appreciated Greg, not a set trigger and that’s why the fly surprised me. I’m with you….and wonder if it will be necessary. Don’t know about the trigger pull but looking at the spring, and it’s geometry against the trigger, I wouldn’t doubt it might be high. Working on a mock-up in plastic. Bob

	Robert Warren
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dennis g Participating Member Offline Posts: 20 Joined: Jun 1^st, 2012	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #27 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	Have you seen the one currently for sale on GB?


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #28 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	No, have not seen the one on GB. I had looked but found nothing, just looked again and still don't see it. Can you post a link? Thanks

	Robert Warren
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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Reply #29 - Sep 20^th, 2022 at 7:34pm	Print Post
	The start of the plastic mock-up. Doesn't look like much yet! The stub is made from steel and was intended to also be used on the actual build but my threading today just didn't go well, so it is not good enough to use later, but works for this. Bob

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