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Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Build (Getting to the end)
Reply #240 - May 22nd, 2023 at 5:34pm
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Thanks Jerry and Jeff. 

The tread got stuck here because I started it while looking for information from collectors on the original.  I continued the build here, thinking it would get moved and even asked at one point if it could get moved to “Gunsmithing”, but it never got changed, so I just continued on.

It is an odd place for it!
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Reply #241 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:00pm
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With the fun shoot we had Saturday, along with a presentation on Longrifles and my family history on Tuesday, I haven't got much done on this rifle the past week.  So, I finally decided to go ahead and tackle the replacement hammer.

These three photos just show the progression of shaping the hammer.   

This hammer is much lower than the first.  I also turned/angled the spur out about .060 more than the original hoping for more clearance under a scope.
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Reply #242 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:11pm
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The first three pictures show the new hammer in all three positions, on the pin, half cock and full.

Fourth photo, don't think I can get it any lower!

Fifth photo, first hammer compared to the new.
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Reply #243 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:29pm
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Making a hammer for a gun that is already setup with the half cock and full notches cut into the tumbler is not to much fun.  While I would do it again, if I had to, I sure wouldn’t enjoy it. Cheesy
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Reply #244 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:35pm
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I for one, like the new hammer more than the first one. And if it allows the scope some room to roam, it'll have been worth the effort to create it even more. 
What a keen little rifle this is- the sort of thing that could have kept the Sharps folks in business for a while. Think of it, a line of small caliber rifles for the discerning pest hunter and devoted plinker. Some of our other brands would have had stiff competition maybe.
  
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Reply #245 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:58pm
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calledflyer, I agree.

I think it was just a little early in its development to be fully appreciated.  A few years later, after cartridges had fully developed, and it might have been a hit.

I took the gun to the fun shoot and put 40 rounds through it without any issues.  Never put it on paper there, we shot gongs, but the guy spotting said every round on a gong at 130 yards hit approximately the same place.

I did put it on paper a few days before the shoot to get it on paper and somewhat centered.  This photo is 8 of the first 10 shots, first two where getting it on the target, at 25 yards.  I know its not that impressive but, I was surprised since the bullets were given to me and I just threw the load together and not really serious about it.  All I really wanted to do was shoot the gun, in order to get some rounds through it, and check it out.  So far 80 loaded rounds and 15 primer only shots have fire without issues.
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Reply #246 - May 27th, 2023 at 8:32am
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Having earlier complained about the old hammer, it's only fair that I now compliment the new one.  Specifically, as improved as the new one is in terms of scope clearance, etc., what pleases me most is that it looks like a Sharps hammer, which makes a dramatic improvement in the aesthetics of the whole rifle.  As always, well done, Bob!

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Reply #247 - May 27th, 2023 at 11:45am
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Like others, I also like the new hammer better. It just seems to fit the little Sharps better aesthetically for me.
  

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Reply #248 - May 27th, 2023 at 12:41pm
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The new hammer is much better. Graceful side hammers are difficult to design and build.

The ruler got my attention. Have not seen anything from Friden since the 1960's.
They were the mechanical calculator of the day. Would add, subtract, multiply, divide, square root, all mechanical.
A little larger than a bread box and clickly-clack as it operated. Thought it was a mechanical marvel at the time.
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Reply #249 - May 27th, 2023 at 7:01pm
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Thanks Guys, it is a much better looking hammer.   
Also....Bill, thanks for correcting me.

Never thought about what was on that ruler Chuck.  It's followed me through three jobs over 42 years, then into retirement and still being used!  Not really attached to it, it was alway just loaded up and taken to the next desk. That started in 1974, it was used then, so you are correct in the dating of it.

Today I got up the courage to get the stop for the lever pin installed in the forearm wood.  I've been contemplating how I was going to do this for quite some time.  I originally thought it was spring loaded, but after talking with the guys that own the originals I found out there is nothing on the inside of the forearm and they are not spring loaded.  You just push the lever over/past the stop.

First and second photos,  After figuring out where the stop need to be in the forearm, I set it up in the mill vice.  Using a 1/16 inch end mill I cut a slot .170 deep in the forearm.

So what was the best way to hold the small metal stop in the wood?  One option was epoxy, but I wasn't crazy about that, and really wanted it mechanically fastened, I was afraid the epoxy would release the stop, over time, from wood movement.  Thought about a pin on the inside but ruled that out also because there isn't much room back there.

Photo 3,  I ended up using a similar method I use to hold inlay nails in Longrifle stock.  I form saw teeth in the edge of a brass and silver nails, and once in, a nail resists coming back out.  I used a sharp chisel and formed the saw teeth in the ends of the stop.  This can be seen in this picture.  Also in this photo can be seen a slight taper to the stop.  Once the lever is pushed up on the stop, for removal of the pin, it come free quickly as it is turned forward.  When putting back, it starts easily on the stop from the front.

This last photo shows the finished stop and lever.
  

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Reply #250 - May 31st, 2023 at 11:20am
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I'm now working on screws, getting the heads polished and, in some cases, reshaped.

One of these is the grip cap screw that I didn't really like the original shape of.  I removed the domed shape and thinned it, which really reduced its prominence in comparison to the cap.  I think once the edge is engraved it will look good.  Couple photos of the cap.

The barrel is also now polished, so am continuing with the wood finishing while waiting for Diane to let me know she is ready to start the engraving.

So after nearly 8 months, my portion of the work on this gun, is finally very near completion.  The rest of the work is for others to do.   

Now I'm wonder what I should start on next!  Undecided
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Reply #251 - May 31st, 2023 at 5:15pm
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Bob, there are going to be a lot of us out here waiting, just like you will be, for the return of your terrific little rifle. When you reveal it to us here we will perhaps be ears-deep in watching your next project take shape. Thanks for all of this. It's real good reading and viewing.
  
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Reply #252 - Jun 12th, 2023 at 10:06pm
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All the parts have been gone over for final polishing, before being sent for engraving.  The parts are shown in this first picture.  Everything in this picture is being shipped except the trigger and finger lever.

It's funny, looking at these parts and wondering why this took 8 months to build! Grin

Pictures 2 and 3, After we discussed the hammer, and how it is incorporated into the engraving, I laid out the position we agreed looked the best, which is the hammer down on the firing pin.  This way Diane doesn't need to deal with the tumbler shaft sticking out of the frame or the trigger. 

Going to be fun to see what she comes up with for a design.  Her first thoughts were for Nimschke style...but, we will see.
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Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle Build (Getting to the end)
Reply #253 - Jun 15th, 2023 at 11:27am
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I've enjoyed every step along your build Bob, and looking forward to seeing what Diane does on the engraving, and of course the finished rifle!
  

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Reply #254 - Sep 1st, 2023 at 11:28am
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All the metal parts are still at the engraver.  Diane tells me everything is done except the butt plate and cap box, I haven't seen anything except a concept drawing she showed me for approval, I've pretty much left the design up to her.

Wood finishing is what I like the least and it usually shows but, sometimes the wood saves me and no one notices my poor finish work.  Couldn't decide which picture to show so I loaded all three.  American black walnut.
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