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Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle
Reply #15 - Sep 4th, 2022 at 8:08pm
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According to Flayderman, the "small" pistols were .31 and .34 caliber, the "large" were .36, and the rifles in both .31 and .38 were made on a "Special Pistol Rifle" action.  Assuming that Mr. Sharps actually wanted to make money from these somewhat unconventional guns, I'd guess that the rifle action was little different from the larger pistol action.  In any case, assuming that you can't borrow and do not relish the outlay for an original rifle, I'd think it expedient and reasonable to scale a rifle action off of a larger pistol.

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Reply #16 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 12:03pm
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Bill, Before posting my question here, I think I had enough information to start on the frame drawings but really nothing on the internals.  While I had some idea what the inside might look like, I was hoping someone would pop in here that had a gun or access to one and clarify things for me.  Although, that hope is fading fast! Smiley  The help here, so far, has moved me down this road a bit further though.  Many probably think it’s crazy even starting down it!   
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Reply #17 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 12:49pm
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Thanks to all that answered my questions. I once thought I knew a lot about antique rifles. Ha! Embarrassed But, the fellows here always step up and supply info to whoever has a question to ask.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 8:32pm
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Wish one more person would step in with a picture inside of this animal. Cheesy
  

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Reply #19 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 10:18pm
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I'd guess that at least one or two large public collections - NRA, Cody, Frazier, and the like - would have one of those rifles.  If so, perhaps an associated conservator (like I was) could be enlisted to disassemble one and take photos.  As an inducement, I'd offer photos of your elegant and authentic work to establish your bona fides, plus a suitable fee.

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Reply #20 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 10:57pm
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That’s  a good thought Bill.  First, I’ll give this a bit more time to see if something comes up.
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Reply #21 - Sep 13th, 2022 at 3:35pm
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Looks like I may get at least external dimensions from an original.  Found a gent that owns one and seem interested in the project.  He’s a bit hesitant to disassemble it but says he may give it a go, we will see.
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Reply #22 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 12:03pm
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I now have internal pictures.  It confirms my assumptions of it being very similar to a simple muzzleloader lock.  Nothing really surprised me except the fly and how really, really small this gun is!  If you look at the front of the trigger there is a screw pointing at the tumbler.  The owner could not tell me if the end pushed against the tumbler, but I’m assuming it does, and is an adjustment for sear engagement.
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Re: Sharps Pistol Rifle
Reply #23 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 1:41pm
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Bob,
I'm hung up on the need for the fly, nothing indicates a set trigger - is the return spring on the trigger stiff enough it returns it to rest quick?  If so then the trigger pull must be substantial.  I'm missing something obviously.
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Reply #24 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 5:01pm
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Congratulations, Bob!  I knew you'd get at least some pictures somehow. Also, if the fly acts on anything, I'd think it would be the trigger.

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Reply #25 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 6:38pm
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so, he did 'step up' and help- like I said, you guys are great. Now, it's time to suggest that he put a little lubricant into that dry-looking ol' rifle to keep it for another century or so.
  
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Reply #26 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 7:15pm
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calledflyer….by the time I got these pictures it was already back together.  I felt very lucky to have gotten them.  Had questions but it was to late, he did want to take it apart again.  He has been very helpful and really appreciated 

Greg, not a set trigger and that’s why the fly surprised me.  I’m with you….and wonder if it will be necessary.  Don’t know about the trigger pull but looking at the spring, and it’s geometry against the trigger, I wouldn’t doubt it might be high.

Working on a mock-up in plastic.
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Reply #27 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 7:20pm
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Have you seen the one currently for sale on GB?
  
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Reply #28 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 7:29pm
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No, have not seen the one on GB.  I had looked but found nothing, just looked again and still don't see it.  Can you post a link?
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Reply #29 - Sep 20th, 2022 at 7:34pm
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The start of the plastic mock-up.  Doesn't look like much yet!

The stub is made from steel and was intended to also be used on the actual build but my threading today just didn't go well, so it is not good enough to use later, but works for this.
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