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Reply #45 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 3:10am
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He would be so proud of you...

Just look at you, you have learned how to delete posts.  Lucky us, we all saw it earlier.

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Reply #46 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 11:56am
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What in the world are you referring to. I do not know how to delete a post, nor do I need or care to. I did though, ask where one of your posts disappeared to? YOU ARE WELCOME TO THE LAST RESPONSE.
  

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Reply #47 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 6:06pm
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ISS   In looking back through the posts, art_ ruggiero stated "I feel that a 32-40  for muleteer is inhumane" art.  Leading me to suggest you re-read  the entire post, as I did not make, or as you suggest, delete any post of mine. Now, you are welcome to the last post.
  

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Reply #48 - Apr 20th, 2023 at 10:53pm
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If your launch platform is an 1885 Winchester what you need to look at is the chamber pressure potential of the rifle not the cartridge.  Factory ammo as well as published load data keeps chamber pressures quite low for the 32-40 in lew of some of the weaker actions that were chambered for the 32-40 such as the Model 44 Stevens .
The model 1885 is a far stronger action capable of much higher chamber pressures as evidenced by some much higher chamber pressure cartridges that have been factory chambered for the 1885. Modern production model 1885's can use cartridges that go as high as 60,000 psi chamber pressures.  With a vintage 1885 I would top out at about 40,000 psi in cartridges like the 30-30 or 32 special.  There is no reason why you can not safely load a vintage 1885 Win rifle chambered in 32-40 to the same pressures as the 32 special which works at nearly twice the chamber pressure as the 32-40.  With that said saying the 32-40 so loaded would be inhumane for use on deer would contradict the possible hundreds of thousands of deer humanly taken with the 32 special since its introduction. As is so often the case it is the rifle not the cartridge that sets the performance limit and the 32-40 in an 1885 Win rifle has far more potential performance than what factory ammo and most load data would indicate.
  
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Reply #49 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 12:53pm
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I know this is about .32-40 in a 1885 but my Grandfather and my dad both used a Winchester model 94 in .32-40 for deer and never had a problem with it. Other cartridges they used were.30-40,.30-06 for long range and .35 wcf.
  
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Reply #50 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 1:53pm
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Good thing our grandfathers didn't have any power level regulations when they were hunting! They'd have had a heck of a time with numerous cartridge chamberings they took deer with then!
  

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Reply #51 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 10:43am
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I long ago read of a study done by the Washington state fish and game department from 1950 where they did a survey of elk hunters where they questioned a number of hunters as to what rifle/cartridge they had used.  In that survey at that time in that location the number one cartridge in use was the 32-20 WCF.  You gotta remember that WW 11 had just recently ended and there were still shortages so rather than not hunt and in most cases that would mean meat hunt people just used what they had available.
  
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Reply #52 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:54pm
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bullshop, I remember an article in a magazine years ago where the author stated that he doubted that a deer could tell the difference between being shot with a 30-30, 30-06, or 300 magnum.  It made me rethink the propaganda that only magnum rounds were worthy of being chambered in big game rifles.   

As a side note, my only 32-40 is a Savage 99 that I bought as a teenager in the 70’s.  I hunted with it a bit, but never got a chance to shoot a deer with it.  It was supplanted as my big game rifle in 1975 when I bought the first Ruger No.1 I ever saw.  I hunted almost exclusively with it for at least 40 years.
  
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Re: 32-40 hunting advice
Reply #53 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:58pm
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I own more "deer rifles" than any sane man would. (Did I say I was sane? Nuh-uh!!) I daresay that I would add my .32-40's to that list without thinking twice, except they are all heavy barreled single shots that I wouldn't for a minute consider lugging around in the deer woods. Other than that, a light trim modern Miroku Low Wall .32-40 would best fit my definition of a deer rifle to rest across my knees here in mid-Atlantic thick deer habitat. A soft flat nosed 165-190 cast bullet at 1600-1800fps, issued at under 200 yards, will knock a deer ass-over-tin cups in anybody's bailiwick. (Except maybe if they've grown the Kevlar hides that the Eargesplittin' Magnum Deer Sniper fellas who write for the gun rags would have you believe they've evolved into!)  Roll Eyes

It all points to one's definition of "deer rifle", which is bounded by one's local conditions. To make a blanket statement about a universal application is the height of folly, IMO.
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Reply #54 - Apr 24th, 2023 at 6:03pm
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Agreed 100 %.    The 32-40 is one of those cartridges that successfully transitioned from black powder to smokeless powder and as such is very likely at its game performance peak with its original form of homogenous lead alloy bullets.  I shoot many such vintage cartridge arms that were originally loaded with black powder and cast lead or swaged lead bullets.  I believe that with such cartridges when loaded to original velocities that the use of pure unalloyed lead will enhance the killing effect of the vintage cartridges.  Using pure unalloyed lead in such cartridges loaded to original black powder velocities has always seemed to be a positive gain in terminal performance .   I would expect much better results with such a load over those using factory ammo loaded with jacketed bullets when used on up to deer size game.
  
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