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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #45 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 9:30am	Print Post
	George Babits wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 9:09pm: Yes, the .375 groove works very well. I have a 1 1/2 emington rolling block that was rebored with that size and it shoots bery well. I also had a Winchester 1894 rebarreled with an octagonal barrel in that diameter and it shot very well too. Anywthing from .375 to about .380 works very well, but the bullet availability is best with a .375 inch groove diameter. And, the 38-55 is a wonderful caliber. Great for both hunting and target shooting. pretty hard to beat as an all around cartridge. George Thanks GB much appreciated. Retreever


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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #46 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 9:50am	Print Post
	Heard back from the Green Mountain distributor , he has a a 38-55 barrel #W38126-3 in stock - Product Description .38-55 Cal, 1:14 Twist, 35” Long, 1”-2” Receiver Stub, 4140CM, Honed Octagon Tapered BPCR Barrel. #3 Profile- 1.05” at the breech, tapered down to .95” at the muzzle. Button Rifled, Stress Relieved, and Air Gauged. Looking for feedback on the product and the specs. Thanks, Retreever


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #47 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 10:41am	Print Post
	Premod70 not sure of the weight its a 28 inch #3 half Oct. to Rd Douglas barrel and rifle a CPA 52 Schuetzen Jr.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #48 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:11am	Print Post
	Retreever I believe Steve Garbe won at least one of his four National Shilloute Championships while shoting his 38-55 at Raton several years back. He shared allot of real valuable information about his journey with that 38-55 in past Black Powder Cartridge News publications. If you or a friend happen to have any of those past articles to reference.

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 735 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #49 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:24am	Print Post
	My 38-55 Hiwall Helm had a RKS 18 gain twist. Shot A 225 gr very accurate at 200 yds. This was a fixed set up for black powder or smokeless, felt like a 32-40 with a hot load.....

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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #50 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:49am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:11am: Retreever I believe Steve Garbe won at least one of his four National Shilloute Championships while shoting his 38-55 at Raton several years back. He shared allot of real valuable information about his journey with that 38-55 in past Black Powder Cartridge News publications. If you or a friend happen to have any of those past articles to reference. Thanks for the tip JL , I checked and you can order back issues I just need to figure which issues the articles are in. Retreever


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #51 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:56am	Print Post
	Retreever .95 at the muzzle seems a bit small and do you really need that much barrel length it seems a bit long but that is just my own opinion. Was trying to picture just how it might look on a rifle based on a friend's 36 inch barrel on an original 441/2 Stevens and it looked quite odd and out of proportion.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #52 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	Retreever unfortunately I gave my entire collection to a friend or I could have found it for you. You might just try contacting Steve Garbe directly he and his wife started the publication and he was still the editor in 2017 not sure about now. Maybe Joe / Westener might be able to help you find his contact information or it might possibly be in the BPCNews. Joe has shot quite allot of Schuetzen matches with Steve and why I thought he might be able to help as they are probably also good friends. .

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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #53 - May 1^st, 2021 at 10:15am	Print Post
	Ok, just to update everybody - the 1881 Spanish Roller is going ahead as a 45-70 project - parts I needed arrived yesterday so off to the gunsmiths next week. I bought a 1902 Remington Roller #1 action yesterday and that's the one I will use for the 38-55 build. I have found (2) barrel options which I would like feedback on. (a) 1.25" Unturned barrel blank - bore size is 0.375, 28" barrel with option for 1:10 or 1:12 twist . ( I'm assuming in addition to everything else I would be spending money to have this milled to an octagon shape). (b) .38-55 Cal, 1:14 Twist, 35” Long, 1”-2” Receiver Stub, 4140CM, Honed Octagon Tapered BPCR Barrel. #3 Profile- 1.05” at the breech, tapered down to .95” at the muzzle. Button Rifled, Stress Relieved, and Air Gauged. Note: (b) is twice the price of (a) but I'm also assuming the extra milling would pretty much even out the cost so I am leaning toward (b). Comments , Feed back appreciated. Retreever


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #54 - May 1^st, 2021 at 11:54am	Print Post
	Except for the twist rate B sounds like a Green Mountain barrel #3.5 weight. But the GM barrel I see is a 1:12" twist, which I'd prefer over 1:14" twist. W381236-3.5X 35” .38-55 Cal #3.5 Profile Honed Tapered Octagon BPCR. I'd even prefer a #4 weight myself, but I see they're out of stock.

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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1061 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #55 - May 1^st, 2021 at 11:57am	Print Post
	my 14 twist 38/55 shoots very well with the 330 grain lyman bullet and black powder. once had a 12 twist and didn't like it art


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #56 - May 1^st, 2021 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	It sounds like you are having to compromise. When you can get a blank profiled exactly the way that you want it from CPA. The last one I ordered for myself was a profiled and polished 28 inch 1/2 octagon to round #3 Douglas and the price was very fair. As is the cost for just an unturned blank.
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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #57 - May 1^st, 2021 at 1:21pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 11:54am: Except for the twist rate B sounds like a Green Mountain barrel #3.5 weight. But the GM barrel I see is a 1:12" twist, which I'd prefer over 1:14" twist. W381236-3.5X 35” .38-55 Cal #3.5 Profile Honed Tapered Octagon BPCR. I'd even prefer a #4 weight myself, but I see they're out of stock. 'b' is a Green Mountain barrel, it's the only 38-55 the Canadian distributor has in stock. Retreever


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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #58 - May 1^st, 2021 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 12:28pm: It sounds like you are having to compromise. When you can get a blank profiled exactly the way that you want it from CPA. The last one I ordered for myself was a profiled and polished 28 inch 1/2 octagon to round #3 Douglas and the price was very fair. As is the cost for just an unturned blank. JL , who is CPA? Where are they located? Thanks, Retreever


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #59 - May 1^st, 2021 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	Retreever wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 1:23pm: .......... who is CPA? Where are they located? Thanks, Retreever CPA Rifles is located in Dingman's Ferry, PA in the Delaware Water Gap area north of Philadelphia and west of NYC along the PA/NJ border. Paul Shuttleworth started CPA in the last century (1990ish) in the Blue Bell, PA area, which is a suburb north of Philadelphia. While Paul still works in the shop, his daughter, Gail, pretty much runs the show these days and does an excellent job of it. Great people to work with and their modern Stevens 44 1/2 is an excellent product (says the guy who owns one with three barrels). In addition, CPA offers excellent wood for most all our single-shot rifles and performs repair work and offers spare part for many single-shot Stevens models as well as modern barrels for other actions. Google CPA Rifles for their website.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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