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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #15 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 10:55am	Print Post
	Why not the Pedersoli?


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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 495 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #16 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:07am	Print Post
	Retreever wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:04am: Thanks to everyone who has commented so far, appreciate the feedback. I started looking online yesterday for a likely candidate to purchase but I'm finding very little in the way of used single shot rifles. Most of what I am seeing are older Winchester lever guns usually with a 26" barrel. I did find a used Pedersoli High Wall Classic Model in 38-55 but that's about it. Retreever If it is the 38-55 Pedersoli with the 12 twist, I would jump on it in a heart beat. I kick myself for not getting one 10 years ago when they were first available. Be sure it is not the 18 twist 38-55! Those 12 twist Pedersoli's are set up to be everything a 38-55 could be for midrange and silhouette. It was built for the job.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #17 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:21am	Print Post
	The Pedersoli SPORT model 38-55 is 1:12 twist with a 30” barrel (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #18 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:51am	Print Post
	If you want a modern single shot with old school looks, but a very good barrel and fast twist; the Pedersoli is a great gun. Those who shoot them love them, and are getting very good accuracy with a variety of bullet weights. Fast twist barrels can still shoot lighter bullets, but slow twist don't shoot heavy bullets as well.

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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #19 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 10:55am: Why not the Pedersoli? I haven't discarded it but the description says it's a Sporter Model with a 28" barrel , the Pedersoli web site says it is supposed to have a 30" barrel. I have sent an email to the folks that have it for sale asking them to confirm the barrel length and also the twist rate. Retreever


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1725 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #20 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	Retreever, If it is the one on gunbroker, I would buy it in a heartbeat if you are looking at a modern "state of the art" 38-55 single shot beltfed/arnie


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Heidinnprudr Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Joined: Sep 18^th, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #21 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	Have built two 38-55’s, both with 12 twist GM barrels, one for my self and the other for my daughter. We shoot a 360 grain Money type/style bullet that performs very well to the 600 yard line. A 12 twist would not be needed if shooting at 200 or less, lighter bullets, less lead. My offhand rifle wears a 15 twist and breech seats a 280 grain bullet. The newest 38 project is a 38-56 Win with a 12 twist on a High Wall. Went a little over the edge with it, designed my reamer and a 354 grain bullet. Sized 40-65 Starline brass down and gained .015 length in the neck. Will be rebarreling this High Wall. Best of luck with your endeavor.


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Retreever Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #22 - Apr 24^th, 2021 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	A thought just occurred to me - I recently purchased an 1881 Spanish Rolling Block action that had been re-barreled in 45-70 there is still some work to do but would this be a good candidate to change out to a 38-55 rather than continue with the 45-70 build? Thanks, Retreever


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #23 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 12:17am	Print Post
	Retreever wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 9:12pm: A thought just occurred to me - I recently purchased an 1881 Spanish Rolling Block action that had been re-barreled in 45-70 there is still some work to do but would this be a good candidate to change out to a 38-55 rather than continue with the 45-70 build? Thanks, Retreever I suppose so, but seems like you're going to toss aside a fairly complete gun, and a new barrel to make it into a .38-55 instead? It will of course need the extractor built up to fit the smaller rim also.

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hornet Junior Member Offline Posts: 58 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2018	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #24 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 7:48am	Print Post
	Hunting Deer with Ballard in 38 55 the best ......... Max


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S99VG Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 495 Location: CA Joined: Feb 1^st, 2020	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #25 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	beltfed wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 11:51am: My thoughts: NOW, there is a middle of the road cartridge to consider: the 38-50 Rem Hep cartridge. My recent experience with mine indicates much greater versatility/capability than the 38-55 BMW. (Ballard/Marlin/lately Win). It is a pussycat to shoot, but will reach out with heavier bullets, even up to 360-380 grain with a 10 twist barrel clocking up to 1375fps. It is easy to form brass from 30-40 Krag brass. beltfed/arnie I've never owned a 38-55 but the cartridge has always caught my fascination. But now I have to say that you have turned my head with the 38-50 Rem Hep; and I am assuming that refers to Hepburn. At the risk of pirating this thread, what is your experience with this cartridge?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #26 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 4:12pm	Print Post
	S99VG wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 12:02pm: I've never owned a 38-55 but the cartridge has always caught my fascination. But now I have to say that you have turned my head with the 38-50 Rem Hep; and I am assuming that refers to Hepburn. At the risk of pirating this thread, what is your experience with this cartridge? I've owned both, and honestly can't see enough difference between them to say one has any advantage over the other. The .38-50 case is about .1" longer, so you could get slightly more BP in it. But if shooting both with smokeless loads there's no advantage to either. Both originally were factory loaded with the same weight bullets, and if you don't mind fire forming cases from .303 Brit or .30-40 Krag, the .38-50 donor brass is cheap and readily available. But so is .38-55 Ballard and it's usable as is. The choice is more of a psychological choice, than a which is better choice.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #27 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	Buy the Pedersoli and shoot it. If it turns out you don't like it you can easily move it on. Price 38-55 dies vs 38-50 dies. Think of all the powder you could buy with the difference. I shoot BP in my 38-50 but I use less BP than will fit in a 38-55. 38-55 has always been thought of as one of those inherently accurate cartridges. I have both, by the way, and shoot 200 meter matches with the 38-55.


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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 625 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #28 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 7:55pm	Print Post
	Retreever, Not all Pedersoli are listed on their sight. BA has had a DST 30" 38-55 which I purchased a few years ago and it looks really good and at less than an original action or MVA action you get the whole rifle. It does have the .382 bore but a custom mold. And I bought a CPA scheutzen stock and Schoyen plate to convert it. a real budget entry into the sport. I have been shooting scheutzen only since the mid 1980's and the 38-55 is the most universal cartridge IMHO> Charles


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1725 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Talk to me about 38-55 Single Shot Reply #29 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 9:35pm	Print Post
	bohemianway, Are you sure that your Double Set Trigger Hi wall is not Uberti ? I believe the Pedersolis had Single Set Triggers. What is the twist of your rifle? The Pedersoli's are 12 twist and the Uberti's are much slower twist. beltfed/arnie


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