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JBenham Participating Member Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2021	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #30 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Zero clearance.


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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1309 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #31 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:26pm	Print Post
	Half cock position


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #32 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	Wish I could take closeups like that! Both notches need serious work. Trigger tip probably does, too. The wear is likely through or almost through the case.

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1309 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #33 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:33pm	Print Post
	This hammer actually functioned fine. Held in both positions.


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JBenham Participating Member Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2021	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #34 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:30pm: Wish I could take closeups like that! Both notches need serious work. Trigger tip probably does, too. The wear is likely through or almost through the case. I have a Samsung phone. Try backing away a couple of feet and then zooming in. Use forced flash and even set the white balance to be a bit over exposed. Sometimes that helps. And I agree. They need some help. Especially the half cock notch as it has been cutting too deep thus allowing the hammer to move too far forward and touch the breech block. I'm thinking of having a .030 drill rod TIG welded in the half cock notch and then I should be able to grind and hone a decent and safe notch for the sear to ride in. THAT is the most important aspect for right now.


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JBenham Participating Member Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2021	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #35 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	Dellet wrote on Mar 17^th, 2021 at 8:26pm: Half cock position That is what I have suspected the relationship should be between the hammer and breech block at half cock. Mine looked like that after a glued a thin shim into the notch and tested for function. Thank you.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #36 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	Does it hold full-cock OK? I'd sure want to stone that notch to square it up. That takes a jig, but it's not hard to make if you've got even a minimal sort of mill.

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JBenham Participating Member Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2021	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #37 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2021 at 9:14pm: Does it hold full-cock OK? I'd sure want to stone that notch to square it up. That takes a jig, but it's not hard to make if you've got even a minimal sort of mill. Yes the half cock holds just fine however, it allows the hammer to contact the firing pin as the action closes. That CAN NOT be safe under any circumstances. I have a couple of vertical mills and 3 metal lathes so I can make some jigs if I knew the dimensions and so forth.
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #38 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	P/M me with your regular email addy and I'll send you the drawing.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #39 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	Done.

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JBenham Participating Member Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2021	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #40 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2021 at 9:51pm: Done. Thank you.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #41 - Mar 18^th, 2021 at 11:32am	Print Post
	" Yes the half cock holds just fine however, it allows the hammer to contact the firing pin as the action closes. That CAN NOT be safe under any circumstances. " All though it might touch the back of the hammer as most that I have seen also do. Can you still continue to push the hammer forward to depress the firing pin itself or does it stop solidly at just the back of the firing pin itself and if so the rifle would be very safe in the half cock notch as designed.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #42 - Mar 18^th, 2021 at 11:45am	Print Post
	Below is a picture of a jig built for working on a sear. I don't have the means to copy the article in regards to setup and actual use. But it can be found on page 79 in SINGLE SHOT RIFLE JOURNAL Vol. 59, No.2 March - April 2005 and it is one that can be made ones self. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2109 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: The mechanics of opening the action in a Steven's Reply #43 - Mar 18^th, 2021 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the info John. I would be interested in see that article if someone could post it here or pm it to me. Thanks, Bob


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