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Stevens 044 1/2 DST, ST or Stock
Mar 7th, 2021 at 11:37am
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I hope you guys aren't getting tired of my questions but you all have been a tremendous help.  I'm looking for opinions and advice on triggers.  Double set triggers seem like a logical choice for a gun that will be intended for use as a sporting rifle and occasional bench shooter.  But for a 044 1/2 in factory stock condition that requires lengthening the lever and that's kind of a deal breaker for me.  CPA tells me that their 44 1/2 levers won't fit the smaller action.  So that leaves me with going the route of a single set trigger (which may be made out of unobtanium) or a real good trigger job on the factory stock parts.  What are the pluses and minuses to the three trigger options?  Thanks again in advance.
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 11:56am
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A nicely tuned single trigger has a better lock time than any of the set triggers have.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 12:00pm
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JLouis wrote on Mar 7th, 2021 at 11:56am:
A nicely tuned single trigger has a better lock time than any of the set triggers have.


Interesting, very interesting.  Thanks
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 3:16pm
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Single triggers have a lot of advantages, particularly on a all round rifle. I wish CPA would make a sporting model action, single trigger 3lb break, hammer goes to half cock on closing.

However if they did would not use it for competition 

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Reply #4 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 3:38pm
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Right now I'm thinking a good trigger job is well enough for getting the project done.  I can always change things out later if I find a need.  Now I guess its time to figure out how to do a trigger job.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 5:00pm
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Just be careful if not having a stoning jig to polish the hammer notch and the sear. Should be able to add a sear engagement and one for over travel maybe. I have not seen one of those hammers in a long time.
  

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Reply #6 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 7:53pm
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John’s right very few people can stone triggers without a jig. Another issue hardening on most old rifles is not very deep. Cut through it metals soft and won’t stand up under use.  

Fixing a Marlin 39A trigger now for guy in our club, he filed the hammer notch. Cure is a used hammer off eBay. Will improve his trigger pull by lightning the springs. Long as it’s not rusted or dirty  Marlins hammer/sear geometry can’t be improved on & expect the 044 1/2 the same. 

Engagement and over travel screws can help depending on how much space you have to work with. It was a common improvement on US Springfield locks. They are large.

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Reply #7 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 8:32pm
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Boats is right you don't want to remove any metal but to only highly polish it instead of.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 8:36pm
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There is a great element of pride in doing your own trigger. Springs are critical. Mr. Louis and Boats are the experts listen to them.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 8:53pm
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I've got an original Ladies No. 56 on a 044 1/2 action.  It has a single set trigger that is very nice.  I've shot a few Silhouette matches with it, as has my daughter.  I can't imagine shooting that with an un-set trigger.  Nor 200 yd schuetzen.  But that's me, I like a VERY light trigger, for the way I shoot.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 9:00pm
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My question is how is the trigger pull on your rifle now? If it isn’t broken don’t fix it. Your rifle will have a mainspring tension screw located on the lower tang, perhaps a little less tension will lighten the trigger pull, as long as you still have good ignition when firing. I have two 044 1/2’s, one has a really nice trigger, the other a bit stiff, but absolutely no creep on either one. I also have a couple of 44 1/2’s with the factory single set trigger, one works okay, the other not so much.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 9:40pm
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I'm still learning this rifle and was not aware of the screw to adjust tension on the trigger.  I will try that.  My 044 1/2 started life as the English Model, which according to my Stevens reference book was the least expensive 044 1/2 they offered.  However, the trigger on mine is as tough as nails.  Anyone ever heard of a "New York Trigger."  This thing is tough.
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 9:58pm
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I'm looking for a screw driver bit that will fit the spring screw but right now the trigger pull is way off the gauge of my RCBS Trigger Pull Scale.  Not decent for field use let alone bench shooting.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 8th, 2021 at 4:49am
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That screw adjusts the tension on the mainspring, not the trigger, it might help with the trigger pull and then again it might not. I am a bit surprised that your trigger pull is that horrible, it seems unusual on a Stevens.
  
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Re: Stevens 044 1/2 DST, ST or Stock
Reply #14 - Mar 8th, 2021 at 4:51am
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Quickest way to a set  of gunsmith screwdrivers is a Chapman tool kit. Carry two in my shooting kit akways one slot other hex. 

In time you will accumulate dedicated screwdrivers & wrench’s to fit individual guns. My CPA hammer spring hex screw, action pin lock screw & barrel fixing screw dedicated drivers always with the gun 

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