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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #15 - Mar 10^th, 2021 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	No doubt My choice of 185 gr cast 20 to 1 was wrong. I did know that 8.15 x 46 was loaded for hunting. If I remember correctly, the jacketed hunting load was approximately 150 gr thus the Buffalo Arms bullet, I have their .318 175 gr I shoot in my Mauser sporters but feel that it is heavy for the 8.15x 46. Right now I am trying to get a 6mm krag with a 1 in 12 twist to shoot a deer suitable bullet if you can find any. Mike
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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #16 - Mar 10^th, 2021 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	The Germans did manufacture hunting ammunition for the 8.15 x 46R, but it falls far short of the 30-30, about 7-800 ft pounds at the muzzle. Adequate for Roe deer/ bucks that weigh a third of a large Mule or Whitetail. Certainly not up to the task for Red Deer. Again, am not saying one can't kill even a Red Deer with the cartridge in question, but certainly not the best choice. Just another opinion among many on this post. If you are willing to get within reasonable range, have worked up an adequate and accurate load capable of good bullet placement, then I wish you good hunting, and meat in the freezer. Krag

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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #17 - Mar 11^th, 2021 at 1:52am	Print Post
	It all boils down to to being willing to wait for the deer to be within proper range and being able to place your shot exactly where it needs to go. Lee Gibbs pres.ASSRA Pretty simple but hard to do for most people


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #18 - Mar 11^th, 2021 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	Thanks for substantiating my above thoughts Lee!

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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #19 - Mar 11^th, 2021 at 7:16pm	Print Post
	I agree completely. I hunt alone I don’t remember the last time I took a shot over 100 yards. The important thing that dictates where I hunt is how far will I have to push the game cart, at 77 yrs old it matters. Mike


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #20 - Mar 12^th, 2021 at 11:17am	Print Post
	Over the years I have typically always hunted above the timber line and 100 yd. shots are in no way typical. If you do the same just sight in your rife for the point blank range that is required for your own use. This is done so no hold over would be required from muzzle to the point blank range / furthest distance that would be correct for your own personal use.

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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 428 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #21 - Mar 14^th, 2021 at 1:45am	Print Post
	There is a partial box 8 of 10 rws 8.15x46 softpoint ammo on Gunauction coming up in 7 days, Odd looking bullet, flatnose softpoint bore rider can't tell if its a stopring bullet or not. Bid at 5 bucks now. LD1 Auction by, Lock Stock and Barrel also 3 boxes of 32-40 ammo
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BlackPowderLove Junior Member Offline Posts: 62 Location: Western Uplands of Wisconsin Joined: Jul 12^th, 2020	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #22 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 11:24am	Print Post
	Thank you everyone for the comments and advice. A lot of this is what I expected. The current loads I am using are amazingly accurate but I am not sure that I would use them for hunting deer. Currently I am shooting a .324, 175 grain cast bullet pushed with 7.5gr of Unique. I am not sure the speed and need to get it on a chrono. This is amazingly accurate for target but I feel insufficient for an ethical hunt. At the caliber and weight, it is certainly bigger than the .243s that my daughters use and my .270 (although a baby compared to my 1871 Mauser ), but other factors make it an issue. A better load with a different bullet may be another story all together, but I am not sure it is something I want to do with this rifle anyway.

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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 815 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #23 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 10:48pm	Print Post
	What rifle chambered for 8.15x46 are you using? Thanks Mike


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #24 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 12:20am	Print Post
	Statesrights - I would suggest to you that Elmer Keith, rather than being arrogant, was a self promoter, and very good at it. He, with his humble beginnings, and long productive life, accomplished much more than most. Easier to criticize someone when their gone, although I doubt he would be concerned with your opinion of him if he were still here.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #25 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 12:31am	Print Post
	BlackPowderLove - I must apologize for the off topic post, just couldn't help it. I too am interested in the type of rifle in question. It could have an effect on the answers to your question as to it's suitability for hunting large game.

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BlackPowderLove Junior Member Offline Posts: 62 Location: Western Uplands of Wisconsin Joined: Jul 12^th, 2020	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #26 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 8:32am	Print Post
	It is an older 1920ish, Schuetzen rifle. Not really set up for hunting (very much target), but thoughts were swirling in my head. As a hunter, more than a target shooter, a fine shooting, accurate rifle always intrigues me. Anyway, this one will stay a good target shooter. Were it built as a stalking rifle, I might try something different to see.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #27 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 8:43pm	Print Post
	From my perspective, you made a wise decision. Too, we like to see photographs of neat rifles, if you would be so inclined. Krag

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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 502 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #28 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 7:27am	Print Post
	If you don't have 100% confidence in a rifle leave it in the safe. "Beware the man with 1 gun, he probably knows how to use it" is so true. "The Jordan Buck" was the top Whitetail for 80 years and is still the largest Whitetail buck taken in the USA. Jordan used a 25/20 wcf. I used to take my doe every year with a 32/40 Ballard. It was a special rifle that I'd take to a special spot and the still hunt was great. I used 170 grain Hornadys that I'd hollow pointed and they worked every time. I am going to hunt there again. I'm waiting to find a light 44 1/2 or High wall. I can load one of those rifles a little warmer than a Ballard and use the Hornady ftx in 165 grains.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 8.15x46 for deer Reply #29 - Mar 17^th, 2021 at 11:27am	Print Post
	I would guess your 175 gr. bullet and Unique load will be around 1200 fps, and maybe a bit too light for clean kills on deer. I'd want to bump it up a full grain if I used it for deer. Or choose another powder like 2400 or 4759 (if you've got any) to bring the velocity up another 150 fps. My first attempt to take a mule deer with a single shot was with my #8 Union Hill Ballard in .38-55, and I had some question about how it might shoulder if I had to take a quick shot. Never found out as I was watching a draw opening morning when one of the best mule deer I've ever taken came up the far side, giving me plenty of time to properly shoulder the small Farrow buttplate. I took him at 140 yds. with a 255 gr. cast lead bullet at 1350 fps, and he dropped with one shot.

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