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Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2021 at 5:23pm
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Either way is no problem.  No special problems with Rugers.
  

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Reply #16 - Feb 19th, 2021 at 7:24pm
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The problems arise with a prefit barrel and the forearm hanger. There is also the quarter rib, if one decides to use it. The position of the hanger is not the same, even on the same barrel contour. The problem is not pervasive, but can raise its ugly head just when everything seems to be going well. Good that you have not had problems westerner.
  

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Reply #17 - Feb 19th, 2021 at 7:51pm
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If I remember right the hanger is not attached to the barrel. No problem there. 

A lathe a mill and a file and a hammer and there should be no problems.  Wink
  

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Reply #18 - Feb 19th, 2021 at 8:26pm
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Possibly for someone just starting out. But you are right westerner, on both counts. But the hanger can sure get in the way, thats where the the lathe comes into play, or a hacksaw, and eliminate that and other associated problems with the hanger. It works well to hold the forearm and that's about all. I believe someone else suggested the hacksaw solution. All this for a target rifle. For a hunting rifle, it is a woderful action in my estimation.
  

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Reply #19 - Feb 20th, 2021 at 10:20am
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Hanger has the hammer spring attached something to think about before cutting any hangers off. It is also attached with hardened dowel pins and not sure a hack saw would cut it off.
  

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Reply #20 - Feb 20th, 2021 at 10:25am
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Rkba2nd you might be thinking of something that I posted in the past. Barry Darr has removed the hanger and used a flat hammer spring similar to what's on a HiWall to power the hammer.
  

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Reply #21 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 5:13pm
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Here is a picture of the No.1 and No.3 that I have recently purchased for the 300 Blackout project.

The No.1 in 17 Ackley was originally purchased a month or 2 ago for conversion, but on shooting it I found shot too well and it was just too much darn fun to pull apart. SO, that resulted in me buying the No.3 in 223 to use for the project instead. Fortunately I dislike the 223 so no problem in pulling this one apart.
  
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Reply #22 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 6:39pm
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Richard Stripes out here is wa state cut the hanger bar off and attached it to the barrel.he was using heavier barrels that the hanger wouldn't allow.he was very competitive and I believe held a national record with his #1 in 30BR is cba heavy class
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 8:21pm
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Before starting a 219 Donaldson Wasp No1 project many moons ago, and having noticed how much the rifle jumped around when the hammer dropped, of course magnified by the scope, The heavy coil spring is the culprit. The spring needs to be that stout to power the too heavy trigger and the huge arc it travels. There are solution to all the associated problems relative to the hangar. I personally don't think the barrel is the best place for a flat spring to be mounted either. There are other solutions, but at that point in time, patience was not one of my virtues, so just lightened the hammer and the spring to power it, installed a Canjar set trigger, backed off the ejector and called it good. It was enough to help that Wasp send way too many ground squirrels to their promised land. A source of a lot of bad juju for me, but I still have that rifle, and may need to replace the barrel one day soon. Thinking along the lines of a Mashburn Bee?                                                                              
There are lots of over the counter parts now available to help solve some of the problems, but one of the best might be to convince someone like GT to tackle it!!!!
  

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Reply #24 - Mar 21st, 2021 at 10:27am
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CharlieHunter,
I rebuilt one last year based on the .300 Blackout and the .357 Mag.  If the .357 is run into a .300 sizing die it leaves a pretty short neck.  Maybe not important if just breech seating.  I cut the sizing die off until it left the full length .300 neck on the .357.  I then short chambered the barrel until it just matched the case.  It's working pretty good.  Unfortunately I didn't get to spend a lot of time on load development last year.  Is there a significant difference between this round and the .32-20?  I don't know, but I can get .357 cases easier than I can get .32-20.
  
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Reply #25 - Mar 22nd, 2021 at 11:51pm
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Doughty wrote on Mar 21st, 2021 at 10:27am:
CharlieHunter,
I rebuilt one last year based on the .300 Blackout and the .357 Mag.  If the .357 is run into a .300 sizing die it leaves a pretty short neck.  Maybe not important if just breech seating.  I cut the sizing die off until it left the full length .300 neck on the .357.  I then short chambered the barrel until it just matched the case.  It's working pretty good.  Unfortunately I didn't get to spend a lot of time on load development last year.  Is there a significant difference between this round and the .32-20?  I don't know, but I can get .357 cases easier than I can get .32-20.


Thought about doing the same thing but already have several 32 Miller Shorts. Main reason for the 300 is that I can buy ammo off the shelf if I wish to go hunting with it and That I have a 30 cal Match grade bbl sitting around gathering dust
  
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Reply #26 - Mar 23rd, 2021 at 12:02pm
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I'm not aware of any dowel pins. But I cut mine off with wire EDM, so I had a nice square cut of known width in case I changed my mind. Just don't cut everything off, the bits on the left for the ejector are pretty handy. And you need something for the ejector spring on the barrel as well as the hammer spring. And something to attach the forearm ...

As for hanger position, I think they vary a bit in 'height' from being fixtured and welded to a stub on the receiver.
  
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