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Early Stevens 44 color case hardening
Jan 20th, 2021 at 4:27pm
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Does any one of you know of the detailed technique used by Stevens to create the "waves" of color case hardening on their receivers?

I thought I had read an explanation somewhere, can't find it, and figured this board would be the best knowledge pool to fish in.  Smiley

Many thhanks in advance
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Reply #1 - Jan 20th, 2021 at 5:41pm
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May want to check out this thread:  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Cyanide
  
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Thank you very much for the link AJ, guess I'll have to improve my searching abilities  Smiley

Cyanide salt bath it is then.
  
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The Stevens chain drive story I remember claimed the parts were also hung at an angle, making the final ripple pattern even more distinctive.

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Re: Early Stevens 44 color case hardening
Reply #5 - Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:15am
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I published a reprint of an old article on the subject a year or so ago. for those of you that are interested do what I do get ahold of Byron Goff and get the index, its a valuable tool fro looking up old articles. This is the first ad in the Classifids in every issue.
The American Single shot Rifle News and Journal and Index.  Copies of the News, predecessor to the current Journal, edited by Gerald Kelver and Rudi Prusok, Volumes 1 through 48, No 6 available on DVD Disc in PDF format together with Index Vol 1 to present. $5.00 sent to Byron Goff, 4083 E. Round Hill Dr., Phoenix, AZ 85028. Tel. 602-315-4246, ffgco1@hotmail.com.

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Reply #6 - Jan 22nd, 2021 at 12:10pm
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Gail at CPA has described in brief what their contractor does to produce it on their 44-1/2 actions. The info would be easy to get through CPA.

I would not want to try to remember and repeat what I think she told me. I am certain to get it wrong.
  
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Re: Early Stevens 44 color case hardening
Reply #7 - Jan 25th, 2021 at 10:14am
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I always wondered how you Gun Smiths handled Cyanide? I am old and decrepit and would not want to put myself in a position to get involved with that stuff. Is there all types of procedures for handling and does it require some type of permit? 

I suspect  that without it good color case hardening is not in the cards. Years ago I got a product called Kasenit but I think it just was for surface hardening although somebody did say it contained Cyanide and to be careful. Never got a chance to use it and it may still be in storage some place.

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Reply #8 - Jan 25th, 2021 at 12:23pm
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Just send what you need to be re-cased in the original Stevens style to Gail at CPA and you can't go wrong.
  
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JLouis wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 12:23pm:
Just send what you need to be re-cased in the original Stevens style to Gail at CPA and you can't go wrong.


Thanks! That's good to know.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 25th, 2021 at 9:07pm
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I and many other photographers use Potassium Cyanide for fixer.  It's not that dangerous if you don't drink it.  You can get drops on your fingers, which is common, and can use it for years.  Again....just don't ingest it.
  
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40_Rod wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 10:15am:
I published a reprint of an old article on the subject a year or so ago. for those of you that are interested do what I do get ahold of Byron Goff and get the index, its a valuable tool fro looking up old articles. This is the first ad in the Classifids in every issue.
The American Single shot Rifle News and Journal and Index.  Copies of the News, predecessor to the current Journal, edited by Gerald Kelver and Rudi Prusok, Volumes 1 through 48, No 6 available on DVD Disc in PDF format together with Index Vol 1 to present. $5.00 sent to Byron Goff, 4083 E. Round Hill Dr., Phoenix, AZ 85028. Tel. 602-315-4246, ffgco1@hotmail.com.

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Re: Early Stevens 44 color case hardening
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JLouis wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 12:23pm:
Just send what you need to be re-cased in the original Stevens style to Gail at CPA and you can't go wrong.


I asked her about the cost.  Best I recall it was $275.  I'd consider it cheap if it looks good.
  
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Re: Early Stevens 44 color case hardening
Reply #13 - Mar 5th, 2021 at 10:14pm
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JBenham wrote on Mar 5th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
JLouis wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 12:23pm:
Just send what you need to be re-cased in the original Stevens style to Gail at CPA and you can't go wrong.


I asked her about the cost.  Best I recall it was $275.  I'd consider it cheap if it looks good.


280 was the quote I got from CPA.  A buddy had a high wall color case hardened by CPA recently and had no complaints.  CPA seems to be a bit of a bargain to me.
  
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Re: Early Stevens 44 color case hardening
Reply #14 - Mar 12th, 2021 at 11:14am
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S99VG wrote on Mar 5th, 2021 at 10:14pm:
JBenham wrote on Mar 5th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
JLouis wrote on Jan 25th, 2021 at 12:23pm:
Just send what you need to be re-cased in the original Stevens style to Gail at CPA and you can't go wrong.


Gail and CPA have been indispensable in helping me with info and parts to get my old model 44 atleast functioning.  When the time comes I will be sending the receiver to them for coloring.   

I asked her about the cost.  Best I recall it was $275.  I'd consider it cheap if it looks good.


280 was the quote I got from CPA.  A buddy had a high wall color case hardened by CPA recently and had no complaints.  CPA seems to be a bit of a bargain to me.

  
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