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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1227 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Stevens 44 dst Dec 30^th, 2018 at 11:30am	Print Post
	Does anyone have a drawing or photo of a 44 dst, that is different from DeHaas? DeHaas states that the 44 is essentially the same as the 44 1/2, but the fly from a 44 1/2 will not work in mine. completely different design. Or just a photo of the hammer fly is really all I need. The one that came with mine did not work, so using the old one as a pattern (thinking it was just worn down) I made a new one. It doesn't work right either. I can't grasp the physics how it works, so I need a picture.

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2201 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #1 - Dec 30^th, 2018 at 9:42pm	Print Post
	Good question and thought it would to be simple to answer. Realized I don't have a procedure for fitting a fly although done it many times. Attached is a PDF that shows the general principles. Don't have a picture. Chuck

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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1227 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #2 - Dec 30^th, 2018 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	I think that might be what I am looking for. Thank You !

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1560 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #3 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 9:13am	Print Post
	Excellent drawing! Thanks a lot Chuck! Hopefully it gets made a "sticky".

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2201 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #4 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 9:52am	Print Post
	Thanks, Caseharden or heat treat the fly or it will wear out quickly. Chuck


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7131 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #5 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 1:52pm	Print Post
	This might make it easier for a Sticky, if Chuck doesn't mind. If you, Chuck, let me know and I'll delete it. Frank
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4034 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #6 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	FWIW I actually have a complete and working DST 44 action, if I can be of any help. The fly pivots on the hammer screw.
	« Last Edit: Dec 31^st, 2018 at 3:39pm by uscra112 »
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	Phil, Is your 44 fly located centrally, or in a shallow pocket cut into the hammer's side?

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4034 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	BP wrote on Dec 31^st, 2018 at 5:31pm: Phil, Is your 44 fly located centrally, or in a shallow pocket cut into the hammer's side? A pocket on the side. Best photo I can get without daylight.
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #9 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	Thanks, Phil! Your photo is just fine!

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2201 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #10 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 11:10pm	Print Post
	Thanks, Phil. Never seen one like that but should work well. Frank, That is fine. Chuck


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4034 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #11 - Dec 31^st, 2018 at 11:32pm	Print Post
	The whole assembly will interchange with the 44 1/2, but now we know that it's not 100% congruent internally. You can see that the fly isn't worn symmetrically, due to its' being offset like that. Pretty obvious that's why the 44 1/2 fly is centered in the hammer.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #12 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 1:59am	Print Post
	Phil, That reminds me of the early WRA lever gun single set triggers. The Model 1873 hammer used a fly that was pocketed into its side, and later WRA shifted the position of the fly further inward. Looks like Stevens may have repeated a somewhat similar sequence later on in time.

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Recon Newbie Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 31^st, 2019	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #13 - Oct 31^st, 2019 at 6:15pm	Print Post
	My model 44 with dst has a broken hammer, will a 44 1/2 hammer work? Also where to find one? The fly is also missing.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4034 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 dst Reply #14 - Oct 31^st, 2019 at 6:28pm	Print Post
	A 44 1/2 hammer should work. I'm holding the hammer from my own DST 44 up against a new one from a DST tang assembly bought from CPA Rifles, and I can't see any difference save the location of the fly as previously posted. So I'd order one from CPA. Make sure they know that it's for an original rifle, not their replica. Get the whole assembly, fly and the spring link, too. They changed a couple of pin diameters from what my original assembly had, so don't count on using your original link. Phil
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