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jeepjay Newbie Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2015	relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:23pm	Print Post
	I have an old stevens favorite that was originally a 32 long caliber I would like to reline to 22 long rifle, I am wondering about the existing barrel inside diameter it appears to be just a few thousandths undersize for the liner except for the chamber area which is oversize of the liner, any suggestions on how to deal with this oversize area. thanks Jay


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2293 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #1 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	Jay, I've done a couple of these- I started with a 7/16" drill ground a couple of steps, one is a short length existing chamber size another length at bore size long enough to reach past the chamber... Having a tool and cutter grinder available makes this easy. Not sure what tooling you have? A lathe? tool post grinder? more? I happen to have a few scrapped 6.5 barrels around so that became my material for another sleeve. The chamber end was drilled about 3-1/2" deep and I made the sleeve fit this fairly close, metal to metal maybe a .0005" loose. For this short section I did use tin and solder it in. Following this I set the barrel up and drilled it like any other liner job. I've used both Accraglass and Locktite install the liners and don't really have a preference. The 32 long groove diameter is right at the liner size, add some rust and corrosion and it's oversize. I finished drilling one once and didn't like what I saw, I etched the bore with a little muratic acid then rinsed it real well and let it dry. I then scrubbed with some contraband, (trichl. 1,1,1) and proceeded. May be a little excessive precaution but the rifle has probably had 20K rounds through it and there's no signs of giving up ground. Greg

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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jeepjay Newbie Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2015	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #2 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	thanks for the info, just what I needed, I do have a small machine shop and should be able to accomplish this. Jay


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17434 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #3 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 8:09pm	Print Post
	Just buy a TJ's liner. He offers them in various outside diameters and I know he has one that is 1/2" OD that will be plenty large and save doing two liners to get there.

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WillH Junior Member Offline Posts: 76 Joined: May 20^th, 2013	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #4 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 8:44pm	Print Post
	Forget the TJ liner and boring the barrel out to 1/2". The Brownell/Redman liner is top quality for 1/3 the price and Greg's installation advise is right on. Will


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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1102 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #5 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 8:46pm	Print Post
	Both suggestions are valid. I've done them both ways. You can sleeve the chamber area first then drill out for a 5/16" liner. Not all 32 caliber barrels will clean up for the liner. The rimfire barrels generally will unless deeply pitted. TJ's makes 22 liners in 5/16", 3/8" and 1/2" diameters. If drilling it is a challenge you can send it to Bobby Hoyt and he will drill it for about $50. I've had him do several for me and then I install the liner and finish them up. I've only got a 5/16" diameter drill and this option lets me do more liners.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17434 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	Yes, the 3/8" OD TJ's liner will be large enough to clean up the .32 bore.

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #7 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	Jay, would you want to consider this instead putting in a liner... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2293 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 10:39pm	Print Post
	TJ's larger ones are an option and his liners are exceptional, I have used several with great success. My issue with going to a larger liner throughout is the amount of material removed from the entire barrel - if you go with a 3/8 or 1/2 od. The method I described is considerably more work but it leaves more material in the original. The Favorite's I've done recently, one octagon and one half and half -had muzzle diameters of .550 and .650 respectively, makes a thin tube to work with. Greg

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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ten-mile Full Member Offline Posts: 165 Location: Chetek Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #9 - Mar 14^th, 2018 at 7:38am	Print Post
	Look on GunBroker for 32RF adapters that are made from drawn brass instead of bar stock and at half the price. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Going with a 22 reline is a lot less hassle in the long run though.


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jeepjay Newbie Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2015	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #10 - Mar 14^th, 2018 at 11:28am	Print Post
	thanks for all the advice, the inside of the barrel does show rifling but does not look real shiny I doubt it would be a good shooter with 32 ammo, I have completely replaced the barrel on another favorite that I have and that was fairly straightforward but this old 32 barrel is in real nice shape on the outside so a reline is my plan moving forward, thanks again for all the info and advice Jay


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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1819 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #11 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:32am	Print Post
	I did a 32 to 22 for myself a while back. The bore was very close so I ran a 5/16" drill ( no pilot ) bit through it an the liner went in just fine. I soldered a sleeve on the end of the liner and turn it to fit the chamber. A little Loctite and it was in to stay. This was done on a Frank Wesson with a 30" barrel and hand ejector. I like the liners from T.J.'s and have used them for almost 20 years.

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jeepjay Newbie Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 8^th, 2015	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #12 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 2:20am	Print Post
	got the barrel relined and the rifle ready to shoot, everything worked out nice, thanks for all the good advice. Jay


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kensmachine Oldtimer Offline Posts: 574 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2012	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #13 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 10:43am	Print Post
	I will never ever use a Redman service or product again 1 time was enough Ken


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: relining 32 long barrel to 22 long rifle Reply #14 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 11:57am	Print Post
	kensmachine wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 10:43am: I will never ever use a Redman service or product again 1 time was enough Ken For me too! Especially after he told me, when I expressed disappointment over the accuracy, that I'd probably have to fire 1000 rounds or more before its full accuracy was achieved. On a .22RF? Installed by him? This was 25 yrs ago, so maybe he's improved, but it's not a thing I'd be eager to do again.


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