corerftech
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Re: My 32 cal x 357 mag fixed chamber and case attempt
Reply #29 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 12:15pm
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I moved to TN since I started this thread and am still not settled, by a long shot. No machines are under power yet, but electrical is close to complete. Was reviewing an 8mm RB represented a 8x33mm, doesn't exist. Well it does, the 7.92x33 Kurz, a cartridge I have heard of but never researched or reviewed. Holy Mackerel, its a perfect (nearly perfect) prototype cartridge for several reasons. The Kurz is rimless but reviewing the dimensions, its actually a perfect 44-40 analog and the 44-40 is the perfect rimmed parent. Secondly, since it's OD is larger than .380, it can be used to form 38, 357M, 357MAX parented 8mm cartridges using an FL die. Apparently there is enough of a resurgence that Hornady produced a run of dies, cheap. I procured (on way) a set and will forge several 8mm wildcats using the die set and even the seater will be operable and proper. PTG has a reamer in stock, will have it altered to .379 body so that I can run as shallow or deep as I like for cartridges. At some point if a variant performs on the 38/357 body, Ill rent a KURZ reamer and attempt a 44-40 based rimmed variant that I can generate quick load data on. A request, is there anyone with the Neconos QuickLoad software addition for designing cartridges that could generate a modified 7.92x33 Kurz file using a 38, 357, 357 max body (all three would be needed)???? Ill already be spending many bucks on reamer and several rollers for pressure testing (RSI system) and the extra $160 for the software addendum to my quick load is untimely. Ill post the same request in reloading on another thread. Anyway, running QL on the real kurz cartridge with 165 gr lyman, I get about 19kpsi and 1800 fps (IIRC) on 17 grains of 4227 with a case cap of 29 gr of H20. I know that efficiency will go up radically on the smaller cases of 38 cal parents and density will near 100% which is optimal. A question with a 19 degree holder as the Kurz forms, is it better to HS on rim or shoulder with this odd variant?? Should I form a 38 special (the minimum the die will draw) (regardless of the final dimensions settled on for reamer) to HS on rim with a loose shoulder so that I can set back a thou and use the rim seating flat to size after forming, or HS initially on shoulder tight?? The shoulder will be so small that its basically an Ackley as I intended initially. The shoulder is under .050 wide, its ultimately pretty SQUARE regardless of angle! Thanks for the feedback
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