Looking to update to a Harrels powder measure bu can't decide between the benchrest prem. and the schuetzen. My smallest charge is 6.8 gr. of 4227 and lagest is 14.5. the price isn't much different and I don't vary my charges by less than a 10th so 1/3 of a tenth seems over kill for me and the br. model supposedly rides on needle bearings for longer life and smoother operation. Is there any other differences that make the schuetzen model worth that much or am I missing something here.

      Thank's          Brian

Brian wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 3:26pm:


The Schuetzen is the least expensive of the polished models. The custom 90 Culver is the least expensive of all with it's black anodized finish. Buy direct from Harrell's for the best pricing.
I think all of their measures have the precision ball bearings. It doesn't sound that way in their description, but they told me they did.
If you want to save $30 I'd go with the anodized measure for $200. It has a set screw holding the drop tube, and a cheaper operating handle, but will give the same accurate charges. I have the schuetzen measure, ($230) and love it! The bigger measures simply give you volume for BP or large case charging.
I also got my hoppers from another source that was much less expensive! I bought extra bottles from Benchrite for $6 ea. They sell them with or without the bottom plug. I like the plugs as I can easily add powder without removing the bottle. I only use the small bottles, as they hold plenty of powder.
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DW the Schuetzen measure is in my opinion more accurate having owned some their other models. Using a ball powder 3 clicks on the Schuetzen measures equals 1 tenth of a grain. This does not hold true with their other models where 1 click might equal to 1 tenth of a grain using same powder and if not careful with its operation it could very easily equal to 2 tenths. Which one to buy is dependant on if one believes 1 or 2 clicks on the Schuetzen measure can make a differance as I do and have proven to myself.

JLouis

I bought my Schuetzen Measure direct from Harrels and its been so long I don't remember who it was I was talking to. Long story short he would not let me pay for it until I tried it first and I was then Happy with it.

JLouis

For stick powders use the larger Harrells  for ball and other fine powder use the Schuetzen. 4227 kind of falls in the middle as it is a very short stick. If you think in the future you might try something like AA#9 or Enforcer than get the Schuetzen. if all you will use is 4227 get the BR Measure.

40 Rod

I bought a Schuetzen model last year and I love it. If you come to Eau Claire, I will let you try it. I also have the bigger black powder model.  Throw me a PM if you get close to town. 
Wade

Bought the Schuetzen about six months ago and they were very helpful. But after using it and studying it I am not that impressed with it. Not saying it is bad but just ok. The adjuster drum is loose in the bore and it flops up and down as you throw a charge. Seems to work ok if you go smooth and slow. When using the .20 drop tube it likes to let grains of powder hang up on the upper shoulder of the tube. Called and they sent me a couple of free drop tubes to try to machine to work , Yea, oh wait, when they came they were rejects with the bores so off center you couldn't do anything with them. Pondering sending it back and asking them if it is Jake ( I am certain they would fix but just added pita I didn't want). Just providing honest feedback.
Charles

Mine has worked without any flaws from day one and has none of the issues you speak of and I would send it back if it were me. Mine is extrememly smooth to oprerate and nothing is loose all of the componets are a very precise fit and so much so I would not know how bearings could some how improve it. I have had this Schuetzen measure for about sixteen years now and it works the same as the day I bought it and I could not want for more. I would think it also safe to say that mine sees more use than most and it has dropped well over 140,000 charges and it is still just a precise as all those prior to the last one dropped.

JLouis