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Mal Full Member Offline Posts: 238 Location: Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA Joined: Dec 5^th, 2012	NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Feb 7^th, 2017 at 5:41am	Print Post
	G,day, FWIIW, the above pill would not stabilise in my mates 32/40 14/1 twist,I milled 80thou, off the base ,he tested it today and it ran just on 1" @100yds,he is one happy camper!! It reduced the weight to 185gns, Cheers Mal in au.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #1 - Feb 7^th, 2017 at 10:52am	Print Post
	Has anyone else had any trouble stabilizing this bullet in a known 14 twist barrel? Please let us / me know if you have. Frank

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3819 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #2 - Feb 7^th, 2017 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	Frank, That bullet shot well in my 14 twist Green Mountain barrel on my High wall with no sign of tipping. I posted a photo of the 5 shot group in the original thread on that bullet. Jack

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #3 - Feb 7^th, 2017 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	Thank you, Jack. Yes, I saw your group and Bob's LV target. I'm supprized at this report and that's why I'm asking for others experiance with this bullet. It shouldn't tip in a 14 twist barrel. Mal, are you using BP or smokeless and has the twist rate been measured? Frank

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Mal Full Member Offline Posts: 238 Location: Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA Joined: Dec 5^th, 2012	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #4 - Feb 7^th, 2017 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	Frank, I will check with Ian and let you know,I belive he uses Both blk and smokeless . Cheers Mal.


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1830 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #5 - Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	I'm going to buy that NOE mold. Do you need their handles or will other handles fit?


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #6 - Feb 7^th, 2017 at 5:02pm	Print Post
	Old-Win wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:48pm: I'm going to buy that NOE mold. Do you need their handles or will other handles fit? Noe makes their mold for the Lee, 6 cav handles but, if you have any RCBS handles, they will also work for the 1 & 2 cavity molds. Frank

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1674 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #7 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 9:22am	Print Post
	I used the Hoch handles I got from CPA without issue.

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Dusty Rhodes Full Member Offline Posts: 175 Joined: Apr 28^th, 2016	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #8 - Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 7:45pm	Print Post
	Hi all, Mal is referring to me. Please don't be concerned, upon re-checking the twist it is only 1:16. I knew it probably would not stabilize, but was up for the challenge. I have ended up with a great, easy to use mold, so no problems from me. it is a consistant 1"shooter. Amazingly enough even when tipping the groups were very very good. Cheers Ian.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #9 - Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	Thank you, Ian for letting us know what the twist actually is. I'm very supprized that it will stabilize at all. Frank

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BudHyett Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 281 Location: Pacific Northwest, WA State Joined: Jun 25^th, 2011	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #10 - Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 8:33pm	Print Post
	Using the NOE 322-215-SP, a copy of the Lyman 321471, mold in two rifle barrels; a Shilen with 1 in 14" twist and a RKS gain twist. Both rifles are CPA Stevens in .32-20, the chambers do not interchange the cases from the other rifle. The alloy is 25 Pb / 1 Sn with the load 9.0 grains Accurate #9 and Federal Small Pistol primer. This bullet is nominally two grain lighter and a a few thousandths shorter with my alloy - giving a bullet of 211,0 to 211.5 grains from a four-cavity bronze mold. There is no tipping or keyholing at 100 and 200 yards with these rifles and this load. I will be working with other powders this coming Spring to get better accuracy. Perhaps experimentation with load and seating depth for a slight increase in velocity will help the situation.

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Mal Full Member Offline Posts: 238 Location: Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA Joined: Dec 5^th, 2012	Re: NOE 322 ,217gn projectile. Reply #11 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 5:30am	Print Post
	Gday Frank, Sorry I did not get back with the details, I was sure Ian would chip in. Cheers Mal.


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